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| 914Toy |
 Apr 29 2020, 11:28 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California 
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Reacting to the awful rear end collision reported this week here on World, I think a third brake light install is a low cost serious safety upgrade, Here is a question for SPOKE, how about suggesting or better, supplying a "blinking" relay(?) to wire in series with a third brake light power supply? Thus always, but only making the third brake light "blink' when the brake light is on via the brake pedal, to get the attention of these idiot texting drivers.
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| 76-914 |
Apr 29 2020, 11:37 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,500 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Maybe a flashing Strobe Light? Or a camera flash? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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| oakdalecurtis |
Apr 29 2020, 11:54 AM
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Oakdalecurtis Group: Members Posts: 1,325 Joined: 5-June 15 From: Oakdale, Ca Member No.: 18,802 Region Association: Central California
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Here's the link from a few years ago discussing 3rd brake light options. And yes, I put a blinker relay in the hot lead. What I thought was interesting was that when I videotaped the light going on, you can see it light up (LED) a few milliseconds before the incandescent tail light bulbs:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=309015&hl=   |
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 29 2020, 12:00 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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LALAA
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 29 2020, 12:09 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Tail and Brake light
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| Chris914n6 |
Apr 29 2020, 12:15 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,318 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
There are all sorts of cheap options for a LED 3rd brake light on ebay/aliexpress that flashes at first and all that.
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| thelogo |
Apr 29 2020, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,510 Joined: 6-April 10 Member No.: 11,572 Region Association: None |
I would use a tailgate brakelight
But that doesn't fix getting rear ended Its the cel phone not the brakelights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) |
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| ValcoOscar |
Apr 29 2020, 12:20 PM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,384 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Apr 29 2020, 11:00 AM)  LALAA I'm thinking the same from these folks. https://aoonuauto.com/blogs/news/third-brak...ht-installation I'd prefer if Spoke @Spoke can offer a group buy. Keep the $$$ for our valued vendors. Oscar |
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 29 2020, 12:27 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 29 2020, 12:32 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE But that doesn't fix getting rear ended Its the cel phone not the brakelights True That.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) But it Sure makes a 914 Look Big as a truck.. |
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| ClayPerrine |
Apr 29 2020, 12:43 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,456 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Apr 29 2020, 01:00 PM) Please tell me how you made this? I want to install it on all of our 914s. Clay |
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 29 2020, 12:51 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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QUOTE Please tell me how you made this? I want to install it on all of our 914s. @pjhaun 914 from years ago http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&...t&p=1240830 |
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| Spoke |
Apr 30 2020, 10:50 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(914Toy @ Apr 29 2020, 01:28 PM) Reacting to the awful rear end collision reported this week here on World, I think a third brake light install is a low cost serious safety upgrade, Here is a question for SPOKE, how about suggesting or better, supplying a "blinking" relay(?) to wire in series with a third brake light power supply? Thus always, but only making the third brake light "blink' when the brake light is on via the brake pedal, to get the attention of these idiot texting drivers. I totally agree with the importance of the 3rd brake light. If you don't have one you should be thinking about mounting one. Some guys have mounted the 3rd brake on the engine lid which is fine but I prefer to have the 3rd brake light as high as possible on the vehicle since the 914 sits so low. I've thought about doing something for the 3rd brake on the 914 but the issue is there is no existing fixture to be reused or repurposed. As well there are many off-the-shelf options for 3rd brake and LED fixtures and strips. Any solution will involve cutting, drilling, or taping and that's something I've stayed away from with my LED boards. About the front-end flashers when you hit the brakes, there are many standalone brake light flashers on the market; some for as little as $5. One thing I have thought about making is a pigtail with or without a flashing module that would help to wire a third brake light onto the roll hoop or engine lid. This is what I did with my 914. On my 914 I stole power from the driver side rear light bucket using a Y-spade connector.  For ground I used a ring terminal and attached it to the ground stud behind the relay board.  I ran the power and ground wires up the sail panel under the trim and over to the 3rd brake light.  |
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| Spoke |
Apr 30 2020, 10:58 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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The unit I used was from Summit Racing in the 12in version. They also have 9 and 6.5in versions.
Brake LED Strip Using a small angle clip I mounted the light to the chrome trim on the roll hoop.  The LED is only 0.625 inches tall and is not seen from the interior because of the roll hoop pad in the interior.  I did have to file a little bit of the chrome strip for the angles to mount.  Also had to make a wire chase by grinding a slot in the roll hoop but this will be covered by the chrome strip.  It's a pretty easy install once the LED and wiring was determined. One thing I like about the wiring is none of the 914 OEM wiring was cut or spliced. One could also add a 3rd brake flasher in the wiring. |
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| Coondog |
Apr 30 2020, 11:16 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(thelogo @ Apr 29 2020, 11:18 AM) I would use a tailgate brakelight But that doesn't fix getting rear ended Its the cel phone not the brakelights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) That’s the most intelligent thing you have ever posted........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
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| preach |
Apr 30 2020, 11:17 AM
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Ridge Runner Group: Members Posts: 1,029 Joined: 27-March 10 From: Live Free or Die Member No.: 11,513 Region Association: North East States
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Lots of clean installs but the one I liked best if I remember it correctly was done into the chrome strip. It was a very slick install.
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| mb911 |
Apr 30 2020, 11:23 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,849 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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What would be cool but doubt the tech exists but a wireless light with magnetic base that could be sent a signal from the brake light switch to turn on..
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| ClayPerrine |
Apr 30 2020, 11:27 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,456 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 30 2020, 12:23 PM) What would be cool but doubt the tech exists but a wireless light with magnetic base that could be sent a signal from the brake light switch to turn on.. IF there was, how many of us would forget to change the batteries? |
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| mb911 |
Apr 30 2020, 11:30 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,849 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 30 2020, 09:27 AM) QUOTE(mb911 @ Apr 30 2020, 12:23 PM) What would be cool but doubt the tech exists but a wireless light with magnetic base that could be sent a signal from the brake light switch to turn on.. IF there was, how many of us would forget to change the batteries? True but we all remember to charge our phones.. Just a thought as no drilling would be required. |
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| Spoke |
Apr 30 2020, 11:31 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(preach @ Apr 30 2020, 01:17 PM) Lots of clean installs but the one I liked best if I remember it correctly was done into the chrome strip. It was a very slick install. There's this one: 3rd Brake Light in Chrome Strip 1 And this one: 3rd Brake Light in Chrome Strip 2 |
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