 New EV914 build owned by engineer of Classic Retrofit, Electric AC for a 914 |
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| 914e |
 Jan 25 2021, 09:06 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 497 Joined: 21-February 20 From: Arizona Member No.: 23,951 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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QUOTE(PlaysWithCars @ Jan 22 2021, 06:28 PM)  Maybe its blasphemous to say, but I've also been considering a 914 EV conversion to use as a daily driver. Although, I have to admit, its less about saving the planet and more about driving a classic car with serious performance potential (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) About 20 years ago it was a popular engineering project at high schools and colleges to convert a 914 or Ghia or Bug to electric. They were cheap rollers. I ran across about 4 engineer project 914's before I bought mine. The downside id students tend to butcher wiring and drill holes all over the place. |
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| GregAmy |
Jan 25 2021, 09:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,561 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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Seemed to me that the whole story was cut short due to COVID. Are there any plans for a follow up show?
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 26 2021, 08:41 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 16,517 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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If I ever win a big lottery, I am going to hit up Porsche's special wish department. I want to buy a 914, and have them put a Taycan drivetrain under it.
Then I would take it to Parade and kick ass at the AX. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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| 914forme |
Jan 26 2021, 05:44 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) and then Betty would kick your ass in the auto-x (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif)
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| nditiz1 |
Jan 27 2021, 11:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,262 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I one day hope to be able to afford one of Johnny's excellent AC kits for my 911.
Every time I see a new vid from EVWest it makes me want to convert every aircooled I own to electric power (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 28 2021, 05:52 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 16,517 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(914forme @ Jan 26 2021, 05:44 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) and then Betty would kick your ass in the auto-x (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) Yep... that's my girl.... I build a fast 914. She drives it fast. Clay |
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| VaccaRabite |
Jan 28 2021, 08:54 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,784 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Steve @ Jan 25 2021, 06:31 PM) If you offered a kit minus the batteries due to shipment weight, with battery trays, detailed instructions like your AC offerings with at least a partial trunk, I think there would be quite a few interested parties. I agree lithium has been around for awhile. I don’t know why the ones I have seen were all lead acid batteries. Probably due to cost since most of these were high school or college experiments. Cost is totally the reason why. For the past 15 years homebuilt EVs have been the land of tinkerers and experimenters and students. These types of people usually don't have big budgets, and the proof of concept is that the car moves on its own power even if the range is short. Spending bigger money on bigger and lighter batteries may not make sense for the guy that just wants a torquey weekend warrior car the probably won't be going more then 50 miles on a post school/work/weekend blast around the neighborhood. The rise of EVs as "common" daily drivers and the availability of better parts and batteries is going to lead to better EV conversions. I will fully admit that when I looked at EV conversion for my 914 my threshold was "could I do it cheaper then rebuilding my TIV." At the time my answer was no - but that was before I knew I'd be building that engine three times. lol. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) If I had built it as an EV I would have lusted over old tech (new at the time) lithium batteries but would have ended up with lead acid and shorter ranges. I love seeing builds like this one, and I hope we get to see how it turns out. Don't tell anyone, but I still think about EV for the 2002 I'm building. Not that I've been able to go and work on it for the past year. Thanks COVID. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) Zach |
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| Jonny Retrofit |
Jan 24 2022, 04:48 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-September 15 From: UK Member No.: 19,211 Region Association: None |
It's been a long journey but we finally have the 914EV road legal here in the UK. We did a small local Porsche show this weekend - first time it has been to a show under its own power.
If you watched Vintage Voltage you'd have seen a very different car but this is the vision I had all along despite what the TV might have led you to believe. The interior is scratch built - we even moved the steering column to centre of the driver seat. The car is phenomenal to drive. 1250kg, 50/50 weight, power brakes, power steering and of course 300HP from the get go. All the engineering in the rear cradle and strengthening has paid off - no creaks or rattles, no flex, not a peep from the targa top. I left the show in convoy with the GT3 in the photo. The 914 is just a fast to 80 mph and actually quicker in the twisties. Insane!     |
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| SirAndy |
Jan 24 2022, 04:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,316 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| NARP74 |
Jan 24 2022, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,417 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
At the end of the first part, they said we would see it when it was finished. Are we ever going to see that episode? Cheers
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| Jonny Retrofit |
Jan 24 2022, 05:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-September 15 From: UK Member No.: 19,211 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(NARP74 @ Jan 24 2022, 11:00 PM) At the end of the first part, they said we would see it when it was finished. Are we ever going to see that episode? Cheers It's TV, they *said* lots of stuff. We will be doing some video on the car this year - should get featured online. |
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| Steve |
Jan 24 2022, 06:39 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,930 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Laguna Niguel, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Awesome job!! The interior reminds of a Tesla interior minus the obnoxious big screen tv. Would love to see the inner workings.. power steering, etc.
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| Jonny Retrofit |
Jan 26 2022, 02:32 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-September 15 From: UK Member No.: 19,211 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Steve @ Jan 25 2022, 12:39 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Awesome job!! The interior reminds of a Tesla interior minus the obnoxious big screen tv. Would love to see the inner workings.. power steering, etc. There's a bit of Tesla for sure , other influences are: Honda E - camera mirrors and wood veneer 964 RS - coloured panel seat inserts BMW i8 - Blue accents 356 Speedster - Seat shape The seats are 914 but we stripped them and built an aluminium tube frame to raise the bolsters and sides, making them deeper and more supportive. The headrest, shoulders and seat base foams are reshaped. The back of the seat is carpeted. I'd like to do some tech videos on car including the electric brake servo and power steering. |
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| sb914 |
Jan 26 2022, 06:15 AM
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Surf Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,536 Joined: 25-November 12 From: Brookings,Oregon Member No.: 15,191 Region Association: Southern California
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Very well done . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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| GregAmy |
Apr 4 2022, 08:37 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,561 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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Ok, so Motor Trend rebroadcast this episode tonight, making me wonder "are we ever going to see the follow up on this?"
Will MT re-up the series (I enjoyed it, though I'm a dedicate petrolhead). What's the car's status? Inquiring minds... GA |
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| guytranspo |
Apr 8 2022, 01:52 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-March 22 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 26,382 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Jonny Retrofit @ Jan 24 2022, 03:48 PM) It's been a long journey but we finally have the 914EV road legal here in the UK. We did a small local Porsche show this weekend - first time it has been to a show under its own power. If you watched Vintage Voltage you'd have seen a very different car but this is the vision I had all along despite what the TV might have led you to believe. The interior is scratch built - we even moved the steering column to centre of the driver seat. The car is phenomenal to drive. 1250kg, 50/50 weight, power brakes, power steering and of course 300HP from the get go. All the engineering in the rear cradle and strengthening has paid off - no creaks or rattles, no flex, not a peep from the targa top. I left the show in convoy with the GT3 in the photo. The 914 is just a fast to 80 mph and actually quicker in the twisties. Insane! I’ve been waiting to see your car finished. Beautiful!! I’m in the process of searching out a roller for the same kind of project. I am wondering about the battery configuration in your car. If the car ended up finished like the video suggested, you have about 230 volts nominal and about 29KVh. Is this the case? Can you say what kind of range you get? I would love to use the Tesla motor, but it does require a lot of battery power. Your project is a perfect example for me to follow. Thanks for sharing what you can. |
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| Jonny Retrofit |
Jun 18 2022, 02:52 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 27-September 15 From: UK Member No.: 19,211 Region Association: None |
^ Car has 400V system with a 42kWh battery pack good for 150 miles. Or about 100 miles if you want to chase GT3s!
Here is the follow up video featuring a 'stock' 914EV and my custom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTNsH-SIqk |
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| ValcoOscar |
Jun 18 2022, 04:39 AM
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Garage Life Group: Members Posts: 2,535 Joined: 19-November 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,669 Region Association: Southern California 
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| GregAmy |
Jun 18 2022, 06:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,561 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Jun 18 2022, 06:39 AM) I'm custom (sorry purists) Nah. With T4 engine parts becoming more scarce, engine rebuilders moving on to other things, and those that remain looking for tens of thousands for rebuilds, the 914 chassis is ripe for the picking for drivetrain swaps. And this swap fits right into to today's culture, and how we typically use the 914. I like it. |
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