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Maltese Falcon
post Jun 5 2020, 07:11 PM
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From a couple of our hot rod T4 clients,
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post Jun 5 2020, 07:12 PM
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Installed with a " Spintech" brand muffler,
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post Jun 5 2020, 07:16 PM
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This installation using a compact Turbo muffler by " Magnaflow",
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post Jun 5 2020, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 5 2020, 09:11 PM) *

From a couple of our hot rod T4 clients,
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Very nice! How much do the mufflers cost? Do you make those as well? 2 for 1? Haha..
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post Jun 5 2020, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Jun 5 2020, 07:29 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 5 2020, 09:11 PM) *

From a couple of our hot rod T4 clients,
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Very nice! How much do the mufflers cost? Do you make those as well? 2 for 1? Haha..


We build the racing headers only; you may use a muffler manufactured by dozens of brands available to suit your particular requirements; sound level, back pressure, single or dual outlet (s).
Our T4 system does come with a "Starter-cone" kit , which will give your muffler tech a transition point --- to start his fabrication .
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post Jun 5 2020, 08:49 PM
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Would love to make a proper muffler for Marty's headers.
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post Jun 5 2020, 09:24 PM
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http://www.gt-racing.com/porsche-914-europ...art-914-4-158h/
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post Jun 5 2020, 09:25 PM
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745 for that. Hmm
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post Jun 5 2020, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 5 2020, 07:49 PM) *

Would love to make a proper muffler for Marty's headers.


Ben I will run that by my clients as an excellent alternative to the standard mufflers out there. You will initally need a donor car to get your prototype built ...so dM me with your contact #s and location, see if we can send you someone close by (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 5 2020, 10:04 PM
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Uh, Marty is a really good guy too. He delivered my headers personally to me in Hollywood.

Who does that these days?
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post Jun 6 2020, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 5 2020, 11:55 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 5 2020, 07:49 PM) *

Would love to make a proper muffler for Marty's headers.


Ben I will run that by my clients as an excellent alternative to the standard mufflers out there. You will initally need a donor car to get your prototype built ...so dM me with your contact #s and location, see if we can send you someone close by (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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I’d be happy to be the first “donor car”, unfortunately, I live in MD.
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 5 2020, 11:25 PM) *

745 for that. Hmm


https://www.msdsinc.com/exhaust.html

$583 for a Highly recommended MSDS header for a 1.7 914..
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post Jun 6 2020, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Jun 5 2020, 09:04 PM) *

Uh, Marty is a really good guy too. He delivered my headers personally to me in Hollywood.

Who does that these days?


Personal service Lawrence, a good chat and new friendship, something you don't get filling up your shopping cart online !
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post Jun 6 2020, 04:28 PM
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For anyone running the MSDS header, which muffler did you pair it with for street use? Any suggestions other than those stated above for an aggressive, yet refined sound? Considering headers as an alternative to replacing with SS heat exchangers.
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post Jun 6 2020, 05:13 PM
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For anyone running the MSDS header, which muffler did you pair it with for street use? Any suggestions other than those stated above for an aggressive, yet refined sound? Considering headers as an alternative to replacing with SS heat exchangers.


You literally posted exactly what I was going to post.
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post Jun 6 2020, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(sjhenry1075 @ Jun 6 2020, 07:13 PM) *


You literally posted exactly what I was going to post.


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=339832

Just found this previous thread. Has some good information about mufflers.
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post Jun 7 2020, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Jun 6 2020, 05:10 PM) *

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Jun 5 2020, 09:04 PM) *

Uh, Marty is a really good guy too. He delivered my headers personally to me in Hollywood.

Who does that these days?


Personal service Lawrence, a good chat and new friendship, something you don't get filling up your shopping cart online !


I made a quip about my MSDS /6 headers not having the MSDS badge, Marty offered to ship me two badges for free. I didn't take Marty up on it only because I'd never weld them on my already ceramic coated /6 headers.

The MSDS headers are a pure joy to work with, no fuching around lining up the ports/studs. I just had to remove one header for a Rothsport oil inlet check valve install, I didn't have to remove my muffler and the header slipped off/on with zero fighting. I've fought with my share of ill fitting headers, so this R&R was an easy job with none of the usual swearing.
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post Jun 12 2020, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 5 2020, 02:01 PM) *

QUOTE(Rikyrat @ Jun 4 2020, 06:41 AM) *

I will do that.

Billy Boat is a high performance exhaust system builder, he is based here in Phoenix.
Builds some really cool exhaust systems. Started out building 911 systems, but now builds for many cars.



Billy Boat moved out east years ago and believe he has since passed. Some of his former employees still are making some of the products. They likely make the worst -6 heat exchangers ever made as they don't produce heat in southern CA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) don't know if they make anything for the 4cyl..

I am seriously considering making 4cyl heat exchangers.



I think you're wrong about that. He moved the complete operation to S Carolina, but he did that in October of last year, from what I was told, by his mother, is that after his brother mike died, he got tired of going back and forth between Phoenix and S. Carolina. The rest of his family - children - were in SC.
How do I know this, well, the other day, I went up to where his plant is here in Phx. and was surprised to find it basically empty, they kept the building, and leased it out to a couple of companies, I think one of the is Rhino liners, as I saw a truck with their logo on the side, and it was mentioned.

No he is alive and kicking, and still making exhaust systems. As a matter of fact, I sent him a diagram of what I need for my teener, using the MSDS header, which is being ceramic coated, and will be ready Monday. I had painted it, but was not happy with the finish, so I took it to desert powder coating, and had it ceramic coated.

What I can say is that when I fired it up Sat nite, that puppy sounded cool, it was loud, no muffler, just wide open, and let the engine rev right to redline, I think it would have kept going, but the rev limiter kicked in.

My pushrod repair did not go as expected, still leaking oil, so I had to take it off, so I thought what the heck, get it done right. As, for my pushrod tube leak, call it a keyboard nut error, when I changed the seals, last week, I did not seat the #2 intake tube, at all. I thought I did, but when I dropped the engine down to install new tubes and seals, I found that the tube was just sitting there. Silly me.

Well it's off to the races today for me. Gonna get the new tubes installed, and get the motor back in, so that when my pipe is ready so am I.

Speaking of dropping the motor, I know this is rambling, but what do expect for nothing, "rubber biscuits", I got it down in about 20 mins, I got a Harbor Freight, trans jack, the cheap one, with a screw lift, and what can I say. That thing made a world of difference, just put it und the engine, tighten the safety strap around it, and lower away.

Have a nice day
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