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> Would like the opinion Of Carb Guys:, True or False?
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post Jun 28 2020, 09:19 PM
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post Jun 28 2020, 09:21 PM
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Should be a air filter on top but with porsches or vws

Its worse . as in who put all that shit on top
Of my beautiful engine ?

Carb guy talking here

But f.i is technically superior as a carb cannot sniff the exausht 100x a second and adjust mixture 100x a second for all conditions .

So who cares about looks
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post Jun 28 2020, 10:07 PM
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And add a 100 lbs barbell.
And yes, fi is more superior when running.

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post Jun 28 2020, 11:29 PM
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Yup, that picture is absolutely correct!
But, 21st Century FI is so vastly superior to carbs. I will likely never go back to carbs again in a Porsche.
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post Jun 29 2020, 04:33 AM
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hahaha, yes ! I came from a pre-67 VW hobby...never injectionparts on any car. Then 'did' a VW T2b 2.0 type4 injected motor...first injection in my hobbycars. It was a big puzzle. Looked in my mind like your picture ! wow...hard to master, but worked out ! Then I figured...next step a Porsche.....staying close to the VWs the 914 was a 'logical' choice since the earlier Porsches were (financilally) out of reach. And of course I bought a D-jet...agian it was all new, but I learned a lot, but that picture still represents the feeling for it...at least the first months. Now I am used t it a bit and no...your picture does not represent my FI anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 29 2020, 06:57 AM
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And then the beauty of carbs....Attached Image
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post Jun 29 2020, 07:31 AM
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Original picuture is true IMHO. Original 914 FI was sort of a maze of wires and vacuum hoses. Modern FI not nearly as ugly.

Can't beat the clean look of carbs but the simple fact is that FI has proven itself to be the winner both for emissions and performance.

Persoanlly I prefere ITB FI -- best of both worlds. Looks like a nice clean set of carbs. Has the wonderful induction sound of carbs. Performs like modern FI. Mabye someday I'll spring for the DubShop kit.
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post Jun 29 2020, 09:37 AM
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Yep, pretty close to what it really looks like.....

Hoses and wires going every which way.

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post Jun 29 2020, 10:02 AM
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Generally I HATE carburation but have to deal with it on 356s and early 911s and 914-6 models, and do successfully, when factory equipped and the carbs are clean and not too badly worn, they work well. The worst thing is trying to start a carbed car after sitting awhile. The lean back fire always scares me
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post Jun 29 2020, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(mlindner @ Jun 29 2020, 08:57 AM) *

And then the beauty of carbs....Attached Image



Porn!
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post Jun 29 2020, 10:17 AM
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@mlindner ....first I thought you had this (beautiful) engine on the 3rd floor of your house, so you could look at it all day. I now realize the houses 'in the window' are actually miniatures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) hahaha
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post Jun 29 2020, 11:07 AM
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More carb and twin plug porn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I agree with the OP picture, I was that way then I learned to fix FI and started playing with SDS. For the /6 I got a smoking deal on the carbs and the twin plug dizzy, it's a bit thirsty but runs smooth as silk. I thought I'd switch to FI one day, but right now I don't really have a reason to switch.
BTW I'm driving my 914 the sound is orgasmic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

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post Jun 29 2020, 11:21 AM
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All I can say is that carbs have never left me stranded. My DME injection has left me stranded or has been flakey on and off. When it works, it's much better than carbs. Better gas mileage, more smoother, starts right up, adjusts for altitude, etc.
Carbs pro's are better sound, more reliable (less components to fail) and looks cooler!! ITB's are the future for fuel injection, but still too costly.
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post Jun 29 2020, 11:41 AM
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There is a big difference between a /4 and /6 on carbs, the /4 is a lot more finicky to small changes and the linkage has to be bang on. The six can be out a bit and still run sort of OK.
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post Jun 29 2020, 11:46 AM
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Carbs suck. And i find my FI intake more visually pleasing.

Plus, i can drive from the beach up into the Sierra's and turn the car off, go for a walk, come back and have it start right up on the first turn of the key. No problem.
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post Jun 29 2020, 12:45 PM
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And for d-jet + L-jet

Air filters are no longer available ?

So guys strap on. A. K&n
Doesn't improve the look (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Once saw a guy here who used
Complete fuel injection from 80's Rabbit
That was the cleanest setup i ever saw f.i wise
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post Jun 29 2020, 12:51 PM
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Come to appreciate mechanical injection systems over the years.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:22 PM
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Working with this engine for my 914. The sound, throttle response, and aesthetics of carbs, with the modern accuracy of fuel injection. ITBs

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Of course, Singer did it better...

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post Jun 29 2020, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 29 2020, 10:46 AM) *

Carbs suck. And i find my FI intake more visually pleasing.

Plus, i can drive from the beach up into the Sierra's and turn the car off, go for a walk, come back and have it start right up on the first turn of the key. No problem.
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Wanna trade motors? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I do like my 3.2, but the 3.6 does sound better and is more refined in lots of ways!!


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post Jun 29 2020, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(Frankvw @ Jun 29 2020, 11:17 AM) *

@mlindner ....first I thought you had this (beautiful) engine on the 3rd floor of your house, so you could look at it all day. I now realize the houses 'in the window' are actually miniatures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) hahaha


It could be a 3rd floor focal point....Yes it is a doll house I'm trying to sell. Mark
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