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> P.O. Accident Damage to Front Trunk, Course of Action?
Nojoah
post Aug 8 2020, 11:25 AM
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Hey guys,

I have been assessing the situation with the front trunk of the car recently and I have managed to grind through all the old bondo, bedliner and crap that was covering the majority of the damage to the front pan. Clearly it was brazed in after an accident along with new replacement panels from porsche in their typical red primer. The pan is pretty banged up but the car is surprisingly straight and the hood gaps, bumper gaps and headlight buckets all seem to be where they should be. My question is though - what should my course of action be to repair this in the future? Would the replacement RD front pan suffice or should I dig deeper into the body? Understand that as a student I am by no means looking for a concourse front trunk just something more original and as it should be - this bothers my OCD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

Side note - this was damage from the first owner shortly after he bought the car new in the 70's so if it's lasted this long, its solid at least.


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Nojoah
post Aug 10 2020, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Aug 9 2020, 11:45 PM) *

Yep, pretty much what bkrantz said but I wouldn't use a rotisserie for this job unless you had a fancy rotisserie that attaches at suspension pickups rather than nose and tail. You'll be removing a lot of the structure that makes the nose strong enough to hold the weight of the car on a rotisserie.

The nice thing about this job is that the replacement pan becomes your jig. As was said, cut out the old one along the pinch weld seams and plug weld in the new. Go slow to keep from overheating the panel but pretty straightforward. I think the process mostly differs only depending on the source of your replacement panel. I replaced mine with a donor trunk so the front a-arm mounts were already welded in. In that case, I bolted up the suspension assembly so the rear was bolted to my car's chassis, and the front to the donor panel. That kept everything where it needed to be. I believe with the RD panel, you weld the front A-arm pickups on after the pan is welded in. Just make sure the placement meets the specs for under body dimensions found in the '914 info' section.

I also had to do a long butt weld across the rear which was the only tricky part. Not sure how far back the RD panel goes. One other thing you'll have to deal with is cleaning all that brass out from the brazing. Your welder won't like that at all.

I think this is probably the easiest of the major panel repairs because there are few things that can go wrong compared to something like the longs.

Thanks a lot Brent. Cleaning out the brazing will definitely be a frustrating job (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
QUOTE(djway @ Aug 10 2020, 12:01 AM) *

Get yourself a shrink disc to help work out all those crinkles. I could actually hear the body pulling itself back into place when I shrunk some crinkled metal.

Sorry I'm not familiar with a shrink disc? Can you elaborate? edit: Nevermind I found it - looks like that'll be useful as well, thank you!
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post Aug 10 2020, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Nojoah @ Aug 10 2020, 08:13 AM) *

Sorry I'm not familiar with a shrink disc? Can you elaborate? edit: Nevermind I found it - looks like that'll be useful as well, thank you!


The instructions that came with mine said it was NOT magic but I have my doubts. Pretty amazing what they can do. It isn't going to eliminate the need to replace the pan but will sure be handy for when you straighten out those wheel wells. I wound up with some oil canning when I did mine and the "magic" shrinking disc made short work of it. Made the wheel well tight as a drum.

I'd play with it on the pan though. Since you can get to both sides, it might do better than I think. Remember though that the shirinking disc is exactly that. It shrinks metal. Your crinkles aren't necessarily stretched so even if you managed to flatten the metal with the disc, you haven't removed the problem of the mount points being pulled together.
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Aug 10 2020, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Nojoah @ Aug 10 2020, 08:13 AM) *

Sorry I'm not familiar with a shrink disc? Can you elaborate? edit: Nevermind I found it - looks like that'll be useful as well, thank you!


The instructions that came with mine said it was NOT magic but I have my doubts. Pretty amazing what they can do. It isn't going to eliminate the need to replace the pan but will sure be handy for when you straighten out those wheel wells. I wound up with some oil canning when I did mine and the "magic" shrinking disc made short work of it. Made the wheel well tight as a drum.

I'd play with it on the pan though. Since you can get to both sides, it might do better than I think. Remember though that the shirinking disc is exactly that. It shrinks metal. Your crinkles aren't necessarily stretched so even if you managed to flatten the metal with the disc, you haven't removed the problem of the mount points being pulled together.

I'll definitely give it a try! At least if I can straighten the pan somewhat that might tide my OCD over until the pan can be properly replaced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Nojoah   P.O. Accident Damage to Front Trunk   Aug 8 2020, 11:25 AM
Jett   Needs a re-placement panel, but coving it up will ...   Aug 8 2020, 12:49 PM
9146C   Yes, RD makes excellent replacement parts/panels (...   Aug 8 2020, 12:58 PM
Nojoah   Yes, RD makes excellent replacement parts/panels ...   Aug 8 2020, 08:59 PM
mepstein   I'm no expert on this but I've seen a lot ...   Aug 8 2020, 01:06 PM
Tdskip   I'm no expert on this but I've seen a lot...   Aug 8 2020, 02:55 PM
bbrock   I'm no expert on this but I've seen a lot...   Aug 8 2020, 04:49 PM
sixnotfour   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=3464...   Aug 8 2020, 01:19 PM
Nojoah   Thanks for the input guys. This likely will be a c...   Aug 8 2020, 08:46 PM
Nojoah   whoops. Double post   Aug 8 2020, 08:48 PM
bkrantz   I see 3 "sensible" options: 1. Work on ...   Aug 8 2020, 09:28 PM
Nojoah   I see 3 "sensible" options: 1. Work on...   Aug 8 2020, 09:38 PM
bbrock   2. Surgically remove the floor pan and use a new ...   Aug 9 2020, 03:22 PM
Nojoah   2. Surgically remove the floor pan and use a new...   Aug 9 2020, 03:47 PM
bkrantz   [quote name='bbrock' post='2841340' date='Aug 9 2...   Aug 9 2020, 08:35 PM
Tdskip   [quote name='bbrock' post='2841340' date='Aug 9 ...   Aug 9 2020, 08:57 PM
Tdskip   Well, if it drives straight and is usable why not ...   Aug 9 2020, 06:02 AM
cary   Most likely the a-arm mounts have moved. Frame ben...   Aug 9 2020, 08:30 AM
Nojoah   After a little more investigation clearly the A-ar...   Aug 9 2020, 02:54 PM
Nojoah   Thanks for the tips guys! I think this is defi...   Aug 9 2020, 09:02 PM
bbrock   Yep, pretty much what bkrantz said but I wouldn...   Aug 9 2020, 09:45 PM
djway   Get yourself a shrink disc to help work out all th...   Aug 9 2020, 10:01 PM
Nojoah   Yep, pretty much what bkrantz said but I wouldn...   Aug 10 2020, 08:13 AM
bbrock   Sorry I'm not familiar with a shrink disc? Ca...   Aug 10 2020, 10:52 AM
Nojoah   Sorry I'm not familiar with a shrink disc? C...   Aug 10 2020, 03:02 PM
djway   Lots of videos floating around the InterWeb on Shr...   Aug 10 2020, 09:26 PM
Nojoah   Lots of videos floating around the InterWeb on Sh...   Aug 11 2020, 12:02 PM
Tdskip   How do we feel about the brazing versus proper MIG...   Aug 11 2020, 01:37 PM
Nojoah   How do we feel about the brazing versus proper MI...   Aug 11 2020, 02:07 PM
mepstein   I would either put it on a bench and repair it pro...   Aug 11 2020, 01:48 PM


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