"Parting is such sweet sorrow", '73 2.0 will be cut into little pieces Options

[GTeener]

QUOTE (hargray2 @ Jul 13 2005, 01:04 PM)

What does heir burgermeister mean?

Reference to a McMarK comment

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (Special_K @ Jul 13 2005, 02:59 PM)

DAAAAAMNN Clay! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Pretty harsh, don't ya think? Think of it as an "organ donor program". The metal and mechanical parts of this one car can get mine, and numerous other "cancer victims" happily toolin' down the road again. He obviously doesn't want it, and I for one am glad that he's willing to take the time and effort to part it out, rather than send it to the junkyard/crusher. Oh, I forgot....you and Scott already have solid running cars. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

It's only an "organ donor" program if you get the donated organs from people who couldn't live otherwise.

In this case, the car is better than the one I fixed. If he cuts it up, he's a butcher.

There are plenty of rust buckets out there that can be "Organ Donors" to get your car running.

BTW... "I" do not have a running 914. I have one that is close. The other one belongs to my wife. It cost me 12K in paint and body work to fix my 914.

I have practiced what I preach. I am not afraid to put money into a car to keep it on the road, even if I lose money on the deal. jon just wants to make money off this car.....

[tat2dphreak]

QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 13 2005, 04:07 PM)

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 02:02 PM) He has set an arbitrary time limit, and I can't get to California to get the car. Plus he WANTS to cut it up.  That is evidenced by the price he set. Yes, I can see cutting up the real rust buckets and using the parts to fix others. But this is NOT a rust bucket. My car was worse than that one when I started fixing it. That car deserves to be fixed, not cut up. It's hard for anyone from the land of plentiful 914s to understand. So where do people get parts to fix rustbuckets?

I'm reaching here... OTHER "rust buckets"... like the car we cut up at Larry's... Rusted to the core and coated with fiberglass on every piece... but a few savable sections...


maybe a miniature 914 silent auction for the car? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
all us MUSR area guys pitch in $100 to buy it and auction it off at MUSR? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)


I dunno what the right solution is here... the car deserves to be saved, but it IS jon's car, not mine...

3k DOES seem steep for a car that is going to be cut otherwise, but not OUTRAGOUS, IF it runs/drives...

[lapuwali]

Hey, at least Jon is parting the car out. There are PLENTY of cars that have simply gone to the crusher because someone couldn't find a buyer, and couldn't hang on to the car anymore. There's a car in SJ now that's been on craigslist for nearly a month, with a $1500 price tag, and no one has stepped up to buy it. It's rusty, but didn't sound any worse than most East Coast cars. It even had a running 2.0 in it with a side-shifter. The car isn't on CL anymore, and I hope it was sold to someone who'll repair it or part it. Otherwise, it probably ended up at a yard, where all or part of it will end up as scrap.

[SpecialK]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:02 PM)

He has set an arbitrary time limit, and I can't get to California to get the car. Plus he WANTS to cut it up. That is evidenced by the price he set. Yes, I can see cutting up the real rust buckets and using the parts to fix others. But this is NOT a rust bucket. My car was worse than that one when I started fixing it. That car deserves to be fixed, not cut up. It's hard for anyone from the land of plentiful 914s to understand.

The only problem with your logic is that "the real rust buckets" that are "okay" to chop up, are already rusted in the places that every other rust bucket is rusted... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)...yeah, that make sense.

For example....My '75 parts car (rust bucket #1) is absolutely useless for repairing any metal components on my "74 (rust bucket #2), because the components, in this case both suspension consoles and ears, are already rusted pieces of shit on my '75. Therefore, the only way to get "unrusted" components (noted above) to fix my rust bucket #2, is either pay out the ass ($500? - $600?) for repro's, or wait like a circling buzzard in the desert for an unrusted "donor" to drop.......then swoop in for the tasty (read: unrusted) bits I need. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif)

[bondo]

QUOTE (scott thacher @ Jul 13 2005, 02:07 PM)

QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 13 2005, 12:55 PM) It's his car.. he can do what he wants. He's only trying to help us out with parts by posting here. your right it is his car, and you are wrong he is not trying to help us with parts he is trying to make money... he said that and there is nothing wrong with making money. but the car can be saved easily as for the cars in the junk yards if they were whole running cars then that was wrong too, but the junk yards dont see these cars like we do. and bondo if you car ever gets any damage and i mean fixable damage i will volunteer to fly cross country to cut yours up for ya

I know he is cutting it up to make money, but chances are it's to fund his 914. (That's the way I do it anyways) I meant he was posting (and selling) HERE, to help US get parts. He would make more money on ebay.

The trouble with trying to preach tolerance is that you have to tolerate intolerance. I've expressed my view, so now I'm going to shut up and tolerate.

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (GTeener @ Jul 13 2005, 03:08 PM)

As I understand it, the time limit isn't really arbitrary. It's wife-itary (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chair.gif) and storage-itary (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Then he shouldn't have bought the car in the first place. He could have posted the craigslist link here and someone who would keep the car on the road could have bought it.

Now that he has it and can't keep it, he should offer it to the list for what he paid for it instead of trying to make it a financial windfall.

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (Special_K @ Jul 13 2005, 03:15 PM)

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:02 PM) He has set an arbitrary time limit, and I can't get to California to get the car. Plus he WANTS to cut it up.  That is evidenced by the price he set. Yes, I can see cutting up the real rust buckets and using the parts to fix others. But this is NOT a rust bucket. My car was worse than that one when I started fixing it. That car deserves to be fixed, not cut up. It's hard for anyone from the land of plentiful 914s to understand. The only problem with your logic is that "the real rust buckets" that are "okay" to chop up, are already rusted in the places that every other rust bucket is rusted... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)...yeah, that make sense. For example....My '75 parts car (rust bucket #1) is absolutely useless for repairing any metal components on my "74 (rust bucket #2), because the components, in this case both suspension consoles and ears, are already rusted pieces of shit on my '75. Therefore, the only way to get "unrusted" components (noted above) to fix my rust bucket #2, is either pay out the ass ($500? - $600?) for repro's, or wait like a circling buzzard in the desert for an unrusted "donor" to drop.......then swoop in for the tasty (read: unrusted) bits I need. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif)

If both your 914s are that bad, then you should buy this one and use the ones you have for parts to fix the fender and front end.

You would get a nice, rust free, running 914 much quicker that way.

[GTeener]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:11 PM)

BTW... "I" do not have a running 914. I have one that is close. The other one belongs to my wife.   It cost me 12K in paint and body work to fix my 914.   I have practiced what I preach. I am not afraid to put money into a car to keep it on the road, even if I lose money on the deal.  jon just wants to make money off this car.....

Dude Clay!

If you are willing to spend $12K on paint & body work, what's another $2-$3K?

Let Jon make his money off you and you can save this car. Have a back-up teener & then we'll wait to see how much money you try to make off this car when you decide to sell it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (GTeener @ Jul 13 2005, 03:20 PM)

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:11 PM) BTW... "I" do not have a running 914. I have one that is close. The other one belongs to my wife.   It cost me 12K in paint and body work to fix my 914.   I have practiced what I preach. I am not afraid to put money into a car to keep it on the road, even if I lose money on the deal.  jon just wants to make money off this car..... Dude Clay! If you are willing to spend $12K on paint & body work, what's another $2-$3K? Let Jon make his money off you and you can save this car. Have a back-up teener & then we'll wait to see how much money you try to make off this car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

Gwen,

You can talk all you want. I have already put up my money to save a 914 from the crusher and deliver it to a new home where it's loved and cared for.

I didn't do it for the money.

Problem here is I can't get to where the car is in his time limit.


Bottom line here folks. These cars are like homeless animals. If you don't have a place to keep them, don't buy them!!!!!

[hargray2]

This is exactly what he wanted to happen, otherwise he would have gone straight to the classifieds.

[Jenny]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 02:02 PM)

He has set an arbitrary time limit, and I can't get to California to get the car. Plus he WANTS to cut it up. That is evidenced by the price he set.

The price he set (I think) is what he got it for. I don't think Jon's trying to make any money on this deal. And I agree with Gwen. This is time sensitive. He's trying to do something nice for his wife. If he's not giving you enough time to get out to cali, pay the man first, and I'm sure we can work out a storage situation until you can come pick the car up. Calling Jon an outright (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif) kinda makes you come across like a (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif) , IMHO.

Jen

[bondo]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the ring thing.

[scotty914]

QUOTE (Special_K @ Jul 13 2005, 01:15 PM)

Therefore, the only way to get "unrusted" components (noted above) to fix my rust bucket #2, is either pay out the ass ($500? - $600?) for repro's,

sorry the suspention ear is 199 from PP, if you can get it from restoration design direct it would be closer to 150

or you could take your rusty cars and buy this car and have a complete nice car plus the rusty ones to cut up and sell the parts from.

as for my car being called solid.... lets see i have rust in both sail panels, i need a paint job, my interior is only ok, i had door latch rust that i repaired, i had minor long rust i fixed

oh ya my front trunk floor came from a folded car and is only held in with liquid nails.... yup my car is solid

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (Jenny @ Jul 13 2005, 03:26 PM)

The price he set (I think) is what he got it for. I don't think Jon's trying to make any money on this deal. And I agree with Gwen. This is time sensitive. He's trying to do something nice for his wife. If he's not giving you enough time to get out to cali, pay the man first, and I'm sure we can work out a storage situation until you can come pick the car up. Calling Jon an outright (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif) kinda makes you come across like a (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif) , IMHO. Jen

You really don't get it. It's the way he comes arcross in his first post....

QUOTE

I found this car on Craigslist listed as a non-runner with salvage title. After fixing a couple fuel leaks and replacing points, cap and rotor it runs pretty good and according to the DMV they know nothing of it having a salvage title. It's one of those darn rust-free california cars. And I'm going to chop it to bits. It could be repaired if someone was emotionally attached to it; but I'm not that someone and fixing it would take too much time away from my other projects. One person's loss is everybody else's gain, though. Expect to see pieces of this car in the classifieds very very soon.

This was done not to get interest in selling the car, it was done with the intention of PISSING OFF all the people who are not in the "land of plentiful 914s".

Then he comes back with...

"tick tock tick tock tick tock"

In my opinion, that makes him a (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif)

[GTeener]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:23 PM)

Problem here is I can't get to where the car is in his time limit. Bottom line here folks. These cars are like homeless animals. If you don't have a place to keep them, don't buy them!!!!!

None of us keeps these cars on the road as a profitable investment. Lord knows I have way more money in GTEENER than I will ever get back if I sell her.

I'm enjoying this debate philisophically. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

Is this really such a black & white issue?

Jon seems like a reasonable guy.

Clay,
How much time do you need?

I haven't seen anyone offer any money for the whole car , nor even suggest a pick-up/delivery extension.

Have you offered to pay him a deposit and negotiate a hand-over?

[hargray2]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:32 PM)

It's one of those darn rust-free california cars. And I'm going to chop it to bits. It could be repaired if someone was emotionally attached to it; but I'm not that someone One person's loss is everybody else's gain, though.

Yes, the way it is worded really sucks.

BTW- Who's loss?

[ClayPerrine]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 12 2005, 09:21 AM)

What do you want for the whole car as is? (serious offer)

The quote is from the bottom of page #1.

It was promptly ignored.......

He just wants the money from the parts. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dhead.gif)

[SpecialK]

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Jul 13 2005, 01:19 PM)

If both your 914s are that bad, then you should buy this one and use the ones you have for parts to fix the fender and front end. You would get a nice, rust free, running 914 much quicker that way.

Two out of three of my 914's are shit....the '73 is rock solid and then some (Brad Mayeur outer long stiffeners), but quite a ways from being complete (no FFC for me if I can't get the '74 safe for the road). The '74 is way less of a POS than the '75 (my first purchase before I knew shit about the rust issues these little bastards have (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) ). The '74 has an emaculate interior, a descent running 2.0L, and the body itself is not too bad. So I with a pair of solid suspension consoles and ears, I'll be rockin' (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

A pic is worth a thousand words....so find me one of these on one of your "rust buckets that's okay to chop up", and I'll STFU........til then I say chop it up Jon! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif)

[Jenny]

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) with Gwen here. No one has stepped up to the plate to purchase the car in all its glory. Jon's willing to deliver within a 4hr radius. It's easier for him to be rid of the car in one fell swoop, as opposed to hours of back breaking labor and lots of sawzall blades. He originally posted that he's chopping it into bits and pieces, but that didn't deter people from saying the car should be saved. So someone save it already! Jon's not opposed to the idea! But since no one has offered, he will resort to chopping it up.

Those of you that have met & talked to Jon know he has an awesome sense of humor, and is quite whimsical. The

QUOTE

It's one of those darn rust-free california cars.

QUOTE

And I'm going to chop it to bits.

and "tick tocks" are meant to be taken in a humorous fashion, not a fuck-you-and-your-rusty-teeners-I-live-in-California-and-can-chop-up-cars-if-I-feel-like-it fashion. Sheesh!!

Jen