can you buy a crate 2056?, looking to just pop in an engine versus rebulding Options

[Type 47]

If you can buy a crate engine, who sells them?

[Montreal914]

Talk to @McMark .

[Rand]

McMark has been absent too long. I would have said yes first to McMcark. Raby bailed. Everyone is bailing. I guess air cooled fours have proven to be less than optimal power plants. FAT???

Hmm, maybe there's a market left by absence?

[Craigers17]

Pretty sure that Raby and McMark are still in the Type 4 engine building business,... the question is how much do you want to spend, and, more importantly, how long can you wait. I guarantee both guys are inundated with jobs.

That said, there are many others on this very site that can build you an engine. Hopefully, a couple will post. I would also put a WTB ad in the classifieds, as someone probably has something close to your specs that is ready to install, but they might be leaning towards something else.

Finally, if you go to The Samba, you can also find multiple vendors who build Type 4's. Just do your homework before you pull the trigger.

[Superhawk996]

I guess air cooled fours have proven to be less than optimal power plants. FAT???

Less to do with a T4 being a less than optimal powerplant. Has everything to do with the cost of parts and cost of skilled labor.

Current situation is that many are infatuated with trying to make a comparison between modern water pumpers HP output vs. 1960's & early 70's aircooled technology (which was really 40's technology (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))

Easier to cut up a 914 to make a Porscharu with a junkyard motor than to buy a properly built and sorted 2056 that makes less HP.

Bottom line comes down to how much you value a vintage 914 as it was orginally conceived and built.

[thelogo]

If you can buy a crate engine, who sells them?

I cringe to mention it . but scat engines are technically a 2056 crate motor . i wouldnt trust it but other run them

Look for a guy going to a /6 and make a generous offer for the /4

Other wise you'll be spending tons of time and money for just a nice motor . not a powerhouse


Im considering selling my just broken in 2336 . its
Plug and play from carbs to headers (nice motor)
But that could be a pretty narrow market. With that beast

And i imagine after i sell the big 4
It will cost as much as the sale price just to rebuild the original 1.7 and ill have about half the power for the same price ....

[porschetub]

Pretty sure that Raby and McMark are still in the Type 4 engine building business,... the question is how much do you want to spend, and, more importantly, how long can you wait. I guarantee both guys are inundated with jobs.

That said, there are many others on this very site that can build you an engine. Hopefully, a couple will post. I would also put a WTB ad in the classifieds, as someone probably has something close to your specs that is ready to install, but they might be leaning towards something else.

Finally, if you go to The Samba, you can also find multiple vendors who build Type 4's. Just do your homework before you pull the trigger.

Beware of some of the T4 rebuilds on the Samba.....some are way too cheap and doing generally tell too much about headwork....which we all know is the weakest point in these engines.
I don't believe anyone has performance longblocks ready to go,the better guys build to order cause there is always different customer needs.
Go to would be FAT or mcmark ,known good builders ,not sure what RAT is going but that will be expensive.....don't know the OP's budget ??

[HAM Inc]

Buy a T4 Store kit and build it yourself.

[wes]

Maybe just lucky but I bought a 2056 Fat Preformance balanced/blueprinted Stroker with 1,000 miles on it from a member here who did a Corvette swap. Great engine all I did was swap out the empi Webber’s for 45 Dellorto’s and change the oil, couldn’t be happier. As mentioned above put a want to buy add for what you want, you never know till you ask!

[ConeDodger]

McMark has been absent too long. I would have said yes first to McMcark. Raby bailed. Everyone is bailing. I guess air cooled fours have proven to be less than optimal power plants. FAT???

Hmm, maybe there's a market left by absence?

That’s crap. McMark didn’t bail. He’s just not overtly active.

[sreyemj]

McMark has been absent too long. I would have said yes first to McMcark. Raby bailed. Everyone is bailing. I guess air cooled fours have proven to be less than optimal power plants. FAT???

Hmm, maybe there's a market left by absence?

That’s crap. McMark didn’t bail. He’s just not overtly active.

He emailed me back a few months after I inquired about an engine. He's not even taking wait list requests right now. May be great engines, but useless if you can't buy one!

[Al Meredith]

If you can buy a crate engine, who sells them?

I sent you a PM about an engine, Al

[rhodyguy]

The $ for Jake Raby is not found in 2056s. Bigger displacement and fixes for Boxster engines.

[mepstein]

The $ for Jake Raby is not found in 2056s. Bigger displacement and fixes for Boxster engines.

He told me his engines start at $20K. Sounds crazy but I think it’s more suited to the 356 crowd who want a hot rod engine without modifying their stock engine.

[rhodyguy]

Add in aluminum cyls and a set of Hoffman heads and the price explodes. Case machine work? What ever the market will bear. Shipping to and fro adds up.

[Unobtanium-inc]

The $ for Jake Raby is not found in 2056s. Bigger displacement and fixes for Boxster engines.

He told me his engines start at $20K. Sounds crazy but I think it’s more suited to the 356 crowd who want a hot rod engine without modifying their stock engine.

$20,000 in 356 land isn't that eye opening, so you're probably right.

[rhodyguy]

Starts at 2270 cc? Then that requires other expenses to optimize performance. Most #s are in the thousands. Multiples of.

[thelogo]

When it starts costing more then /6 engines
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

[Rand]

McMark has been absent too long. I would have said yes first to McMcark. Raby bailed. Everyone is bailing. I guess air cooled fours have proven to be less than optimal power plants. FAT???

Hmm, maybe there's a market left by absence?

That’s crap. McMark didn’t bail. He’s just not overtly active.

To be 100% clear, I only have 100% respect for McMark. I would buy from him first without hesitation. That's why I said it!!
But it isn't crap if he isn't here. I miss the bro on here! Don't try to turn my post negative.

[mepstein]

When it starts costing more then /6 engines
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)

Number of cylinders is immaterial. Restoring a 356 engine can cost way more than a six, a Polopolus engine runs $25-40K and all those numbers pale in comparison to the 4 cam Fuhrmann engine. A $20K hot type 4 can be a cost saving measure.