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Oil line on a six, hose and valve installed! |
johnlush |
Aug 25 2020, 08:50 PM
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What's all this then? Group: Members Posts: 371 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Cheyenne, WY Member No.: 2,108 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The early lines like yours can be rebuilt as long as the fittings aren't too bunged up. The replacement hose is 22mm ID x 30mm OD and can be sourced from BelMetric and probably other places. If your fittings are toast you can buy new lines or fittings and hose and have them crimped. Wasn't a member here selling sets of new lines? MB911?? I have a Cohline crimper and would be happy to help you if needed.
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 26 2020, 04:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,560 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Don't discard your original plumbing.
As mentioned they can be rebuilt. If you chose to rebuild avoid putting a ChannelLock on the aluminum collars, they are dated and have value with your car. Use a strap wrench or find someone familiar with these fittings. Some of us on this site have done this. Crimped style replacement hoses are available. Removing the tank with the first hose attached is either impossible or a very big challenge. It's a toss up. Pictured is a tool to reach into the fender for the first fitting off the tank. Attached thumbnail(s) |
mlindner |
Aug 26 2020, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Does the Rothsport valve need to be put into a cut hose or does it have threaded fittings. Mark
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Krieger |
Aug 26 2020, 08:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,722 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
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fixer34 |
Aug 26 2020, 08:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The early lines like yours can be rebuilt as long as the fittings aren't too bunged up. The replacement hose is 22mm ID x 30mm OD and can be sourced from BelMetric and probably other places. If your fittings are toast you can buy new lines or fittings and hose and have them crimped. Wasn't a member here selling sets of new lines? MB911?? I have a Cohline crimper and would be happy to help you if needed. Ahh, so that's how they come apart. Nope, not something I want to try on my own. The fittings seem to be in pretty good shape. This curved pipe piece is still attached to the tank and I'm going with the 'if it ain't broke...' for that part. I did clean up the rust around the fitting nut and it seems like it will be fine to reconnect the other piece. The second picture is what the original objective was/is. (why does swamp and alligators come to mind...) So if you are willing to tackle it, I would be glad to ship the pieces out to you and pay for time/materials/whatever. If you have a couple short pieces of hose, great, otherwise I'll see if I can find the proper size and send that also. Pete |
fixer34 |
Aug 26 2020, 08:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Does the Rothsport valve need to be put into a cut hose or does it have threaded fittings. Mark The rubber hose is cut. See my original pictures, and the one I just posted with the line off. On a factory car with heat exchangers, there is really only one place it will fit and that is right next to the oil cooler. |
fixer34 |
Aug 26 2020, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Does the Rothsport valve need to be put into a cut hose or does it have threaded fittings. Mark The rubber hose is cut. See my original pictures, and the one I just posted with the line off. On a factory car with heat exchangers, there is really only one place it will fit and that is right next to the oil cooler. Here's one with the heat exchanger on. The clamp attaches to the heat exchanger there is just enough room for the valve between it and the fitting. The rest of the hose has too tight of a bend to insert the valve. |
johnlush |
Aug 26 2020, 10:06 AM
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What's all this then? Group: Members Posts: 371 Joined: 26-May 04 From: Cheyenne, WY Member No.: 2,108 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'd be glad to help but honestly if you've gotten this far you can easily do it yourself and get back on the road. Removing the fitting from the collar isn't that difficult. Use a rubber strap wrench to hold the collar and just back out the fitting. Clean up the fittings, measure and cut new hose and put it all back together. I would suggest this hose as it has an abrasion resistant outer layer.
Belmetric Hose If you really don't want to mess with it let me know and we can work something out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) John |
fixer34 |
Aug 26 2020, 10:39 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I'd be glad to help but honestly if you've gotten this far you can easily do it yourself and get back on the road. Removing the fitting from the collar isn't that difficult. Use a rubber strap wrench to hold the collar and just back out the fitting. Clean up the fittings, measure and cut new hose and put it all back together. I would suggest this hose as it has an abrasion resistant outer layer. Belmetric Hose If you really don't want to mess with it let me know and we can work something out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) John That's the hose I was just looking at, I'll get it ordered. Once I have it, I'll give the collars a try and let you know if I could use your services. The car hasn't been out in at least 6 months, so another week or 2 isn't a big deal. That's why I'm going thru all this so I can drive it more and not deal with big oil leaks. Thanks again. |
Mark Henry |
Aug 26 2020, 12:48 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
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fixer34 |
Aug 26 2020, 03:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Too me the cooler end is cut a little too close, you want to make sure the two barbs don't touch, I'd want 1/2"-3/4" space between the valve and cohline barb tips. Got it. Ordered a meter of hose today so I have some to 'play with'. I'll cut a short piece and mount the valve, then measure, and cut back if needed, the cooler side. |
porschetub |
Aug 26 2020, 03:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
You have to use a special hose with the reusable fitting,can't remember what its called,hydraulic hose shops will have it.
The alloy outer is course left hand thread ,I used to cut a small chamfer with a sharp blade to help the inner to screw in ,just make sure you put a little oil on both parts and you will be good. |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 26 2020, 05:40 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,796 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
@rgalla9146 Thanks for the tip about the Stoddard wrenches. I just ordered set. Of course I had to toss in a new T-shirt too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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porschetub |
Aug 26 2020, 09:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
@rgalla9146 Thanks for the tip about the Stoddard wrenches. I just ordered set. Of course I had to toss in a new T-shirt too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Michael you can get one of these made mine works good with my car,you can get the very last of oil left in the tank and it seems to help vent when draining from the case.. Keep enjoying that stunning car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) . |
mepstein |
Aug 27 2020, 05:59 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,300 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
@rgalla9146 Thanks for the tip about the Stoddard wrenches. I just ordered set. Of course I had to toss in a new T-shirt too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Michael you can get one of these made mine works good with my car,you can get the very last of oil left in the tank and it seems to help vent when draining from the case.. Keep enjoying that stunning car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) . Make sure to safety wire. You could loose all your oil in minutes if that bolt gets loose. |
rudedude |
Aug 27 2020, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I like the wrench for the tank connection. Sure beats replacing the tank 3 times getting the angle correct as i recently did.
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gms |
Aug 27 2020, 08:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
@fixer34 looks like got it apart?
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fixer34 |
Aug 28 2020, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,085 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Making progress. Yes, your wrenches helped immensely. Put 18" of pipe on each one and that provided enough force to break it loose without damage. Cleaned up the surface rust around the nut, threads all look good and even did a test fit back together. Cut the hose to install the valve, but 50yr old rubber doesn't stretch anymore. So ordered a length of reinforced hose, it came today. Valve goes in much easier, but now I need to remove the cohline fittings and out them on the new hose. |
porschetub |
Aug 28 2020, 05:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
@rgalla9146 Thanks for the tip about the Stoddard wrenches. I just ordered set. Of course I had to toss in a new T-shirt too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Michael you can get one of these made mine works good with my car,you can get the very last of oil left in the tank and it seems to help vent when draining from the case.. Keep enjoying that stunning car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) . Make sure to safety wire. You could loose all your oil in minutes if that bolt gets loose. No need the bung thread is tapered,and has a wee lick of blue Hylamar ...going nowhere,cheers. |
914forme |
Aug 28 2020, 07:36 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Where do you get the 30mm to 30mm with drain plug?
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