Paint Problem Options

[cal914]

Had my 914 bare metaled and repainted 6 months ago ,when washing her the other day I saw that the paint was blistering and coming away from the body where the windshield wipers are attached ,this is happening on both ,I was told by the shop that painted the car that this was due too old rubbers been fitted (there only 2 years old and they did the refit ) is this correct or are they BS me ,any advice would be great fully received

[mepstein]

My uneducated paint knowledge makes me thing something wasn't completely set up before the parts were installed.

[9146C]

Only venturing a guess...but, that is a very hard area to correctly sand/prep for paint. To me, it doesn't look like the new top coat was effectively prepped in that awkward valley. My opinion only.

[mepstein]

But I'm not buying the "you used old rubber" excuse.

[Cairo94507]

Complete BS. That paint had not cured sufficiently for them to assemble and tighten the wipers down. The good news is they can repaint that entire panel, easily ending it at the base of the windshield for a small blend. The age of the rubber had zip to do with it- especially if it was 2 year old rubber and they did the install. Tell them to strip and repaint the cowl. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[PanelBilly]

BS

[SO.O.C914er]

I agree the paint wasn’t dry before they started assembling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

[mb911]

I agree the paint wasn’t dry before they started assembling. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

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Painted many cars and that happens from time to time.

[DickSteinkamp]

I'd think if the paint was hard enough to cut and buff (base/clear or single stage), then it was hard enough to do the reassembly.

[Spoke]

The paint has been twisted like if installing the mechanism and tightening the fixture.

[fiacra]

Yup...I call BS. The paint had not cured enough before reassembly. Happened once to me. You can easily tell that from the way the paint has rippled in one direction. Essentially the top skin had dried but the paint underneath was still fluid so when they tightened down the windshield wiper they stretched the skin and created underlying fluid ripples. These can show up slowly as constant tension slowly stretches the skin and moves the still fluid underlying layer of paint. Their fault, their responsibility, your headache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Good luck! The fact that they are trying to make this your fault is not a good sign.

[mb911]

Yup...I call BS. The paint had not cured enough before reassembly. Happened once to me. You can easily tell that from the way the paint has rippled in one direction. Essentially the top skin had dried but the paint underneath was still fluid so when they tightened down the windshield wiper they stretched the skin and created underlying fluid ripples. These can show up slowly as constant tension slowly stretches the skin and moves the still fluid underlying layer of paint. Their fault, their responsibility, your headache (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Good luck! The fact that they are trying to make this your fault is not a good sign.

Todays paint needs 30 days to fully cure.. Especially if you use an epoxy primer as a sealer prior to base then clear

[Front yard mechanic]

It's a small blemish sometimes the fix is worse I would leave it alone

[thomasotten]

It doesn't look too bad from the photo. I agree, the fix may be worse than the problem.

[porschetub]

Base primer not sanded properly and poor adhesion of the topcoat,plain and simple...hope that's the only area (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
If the painter has any balls he will back up with repair but appears this may not happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
You need to remember the OP said paint is 6 months old.
Good luck.

[Jett]

Sure looks like bad prep and or too much paint that did not dry before the wipers were installed.

The body shop should take responsibility and correct immediately.

[Frankvw]

I also think paint underneath was not dry enough before tightening down. Can happen....But if the shop already is sending you away with a lame excuse for this....I hope you will not have other issues with them to deal with if they do not accept a valid customers complaint about this already..... good luck !

[bbrock]

I would send that pic to the paint manufacturer and get their read on it. When they tell you the same thing people here are saying, you'll have something concrete to counter the BS you are getting from the paint shop.

BTW, why the hell would "old rubber" do this? Fresh rubber would be more likely to out gas something that MIGHT interact with paint but I doubt it. Old rubber should be as inert as it gets.

Good luck!

[Rob-O]

I would send that pic to the paint manufacturer and get their read on it. When they tell you the same thing people here are saying, you'll have something concrete to counter the BS you are getting from the paint shop.

BTW, why the hell would "old rubber" do this? Fresh rubber would be more likely to out gas something that MIGHT interact with paint but I doubt it. Old rubber should be as inert as it gets.

Good luck!

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From a materials science perspective this is a paint issue/prep issue. Even if the rubber gasket was out-gassing the paint should be impervious to it. Every paint manufacturer is going to test their material against rubber since it’s commonly used adjacent to painted surfaces. If there was a possibility that the outgassed material could affect the paint I’m positive it would be on the angstrom level. Certainly not deep enough for the paint to fail like this, which I would classify as a cohesive failure (read: between layers) from the photos. The ‘twist’ of the painted surface kinda gives it away. Even if the paint had cured enough to cut and buff doesn’t mean it was cured enough for assembly...particularly in this area where paint would have the opportunity to ‘pool’.

[mb911]

Its really not a prep issue.. I have painted a lot and can tell you it is straight up assembled to quickly after painting. They twisted the rubber bushing thus causing the twisting of paint.. Personally I would not respray that area rather just get a discount from them