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914Toy
post Sep 7 2020, 04:50 PM
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I have just finished installing an AC system with an electric 12V AC compressor with an "odd" collection of condensers which to my happy surprise appears to be working well or at least well enough! I committed to this some four or so weeks ago after much input from Steve, who has done most of the research, and had already bought most of his parts and tools to install a similar system to mine. He kindly lent me the tool to crimp the hose attachments, and the tools to charge the refrigerant into the system.

I purchased: 1) a new Benling 12V electric compressor from Steve, 2) a new Mini- cooler AC only evaporator from Southern Rods, 3) four used radiators/condensers (two 911 front condensers, and two early 2000’s Ford Explorer auto transmission oil cooler radiators from a wrecking yard (“El Cheepo”), 4) a new drier, also from Southern Rods, and 5) most of the Reduced Barrier hoses and fittings from Air Parts and some from Mesa Hose.

The pics show the compressor installed in the frunk behind my oil cooler shroud, the evaporator under the glove box, two 911 condensers “sandwiched” together with my Mazda engine oil cooler – all threes under the same slightly modified cowling with the 12” fan pulling/pushing the heated air through the bottom of the frunk, and a poor picture showing one of the modified Ford radiators (now AC condenser) with a 7” fan located in front of the passenger side rear wheel – the other similarly located in front of the driver side rear wheel. The drier is attached to the driver side frunk wall. I had the Ford 10”x7” radiator hose fittings modified to fit AC O ring seal hose fittings.

Other than simple challenges to fabricate the mountings for the compressor and the evaporator, the space and angles of available surfaces to attach the two condensers in the wheel wells were challenging but doable after much trial and error and adjustments to the aluminum brackets I fabricated.

The hose sizes and fittings were a challenge. The normal #10 and #8 hose fittings to the compressor are too bulky for my application, but Classic Retrofit came to the rescue supplying their efficient/elegant compressor/hose fittings. I learned that the modern Reduced (outside dimensions) Barrier (required to contain R134a refrigerant) hoses are more flexible, and need less space.

With the system running now, I measured the amps being generated by the alternator and the amps being absorbed by the compressor, all with a fully charged battery. The compressor is pulling 40 amps, and the alternator is generating 40 amps at 900 rpm engine idle speed, but 70 amps at 2000 and above RPM. I have a Denso 175 amp alternator on order, which should arrive tomorrow!
So we will see how all this performs later this week.

My grandson’s 3D printing skills produced three 45 degrees slip-on cold air “direction adjustment tubes” which is a nice finish for this application (see pics)!

The road test today was short but encouraging. I am joining the caravan from S. Cal Wed. morning to the Red Rocks Classic 2020, and expect to give this system a serious test through the desert!!

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914Toy   Electric AC   Sep 7 2020, 04:50 PM
ValcoOscar   Nice Keith, can't wait to see how it works on ...   Sep 7 2020, 04:56 PM
BPic   Nice work. Please update us on this after your dri...   Sep 7 2020, 05:12 PM
wes   I’m very interested in a AC setup as well looks ...   Sep 7 2020, 05:17 PM
Mueller   Nice install, looking forward to a progress report...   Sep 7 2020, 05:17 PM
FL 000   Nice setup, and being electric definitely has the ...   Sep 7 2020, 05:18 PM
michael7810   Very cool Keith   Sep 7 2020, 06:17 PM
Coondog   Strong work...... :first:   Sep 7 2020, 07:01 PM
flat4guy   Great idea - I saw this on the episode of Vintage ...   Sep 7 2020, 07:34 PM
914Toy   After I had bought the two 911 front condensers an...   Sep 7 2020, 07:50 PM
913B   Nice .... :first:   Sep 7 2020, 07:58 PM
jim_hoyland   What a great installation :) The adaption to ele...   Sep 7 2020, 07:59 PM
thelogo   Hey keith .i new you were crazy when you sold me t...   Sep 7 2020, 08:00 PM
76-914   It will be fine going there. They are forecasting ...   Sep 7 2020, 09:09 PM
Chris914n6   Get a cheap digital / cooking thermometer before t...   Sep 7 2020, 10:11 PM
914Toy   Get a cheap digital / cooking thermometer before ...   Sep 7 2020, 11:43 PM
porschetub   I have just finished installing an AC system with...   Sep 8 2020, 12:33 AM
Fosterjoejr   [quote name='914Toy' date='Sep 7 2020,...   Sep 8 2020, 11:21 AM
76-914   Joe Foster is new to our community. Long time Pors...   Sep 8 2020, 04:54 PM
gonzo54   Keith, fasinating AC project and engineered like e...   Sep 8 2020, 05:38 PM
914sgofast2   I too am considering using an electric AC compress...   Sep 13 2020, 05:32 PM
Steve   I too am considering using an electric AC compres...   Sep 14 2020, 03:58 PM
914Toy   I too am considering using an electric AC compres...   Sep 14 2020, 04:51 PM
Chris914n6   I was advised, after purchasing and installing th...   Sep 14 2020, 06:25 PM
914Toy   I was advised, after purchasing and installing t...   Sep 14 2020, 08:52 PM
PWS1205   Where did you get the Denso 175 amp alternator? A...   Sep 14 2020, 02:37 PM
914Toy   Jury is in: The compressor has three choices of rp...   Sep 18 2020, 01:24 PM
ahycaramba   BRAVO Keith!! :Qarl: !Hats off to you ...   Sep 18 2020, 02:43 PM
914Toy   BRAVO Keith!! :Qarl: !Hats off to you...   Sep 18 2020, 04:03 PM
76-914   :beer2: I was thinking about your AC today. Hang t...   Sep 18 2020, 05:58 PM
914Toy   :beer2: I was thinking about your AC today. Hang ...   Sep 18 2020, 06:45 PM
Steve   :beer2: I was thinking about your AC today. Hang...   Sep 18 2020, 10:14 PM
76-914   :beer2: I was thinking about your AC today. Hang...   Sep 19 2020, 10:21 AM
drem914   Great job Keith. Let me know when you want to sell...   Sep 18 2020, 11:48 PM
thelogo   The ac is impressive But im not to surprised . wat...   Sep 19 2020, 01:11 AM
914Toy   The ac is impressive But im not to surprised . wa...   Sep 19 2020, 09:23 AM
Jonny Retrofit   I’m speechless. When we announced our electr...   Sep 19 2020, 04:46 PM
Spoke   ...our electric AC kit for 911s on Pelican 4 year...   Sep 19 2020, 05:51 PM
ahycaramba   Can anyone tell me where to get these AC compresso...   Sep 19 2020, 05:09 PM
914Toy   Can anyone tell me where to get these AC compress...   Sep 19 2020, 07:12 PM
Steve   [quote name='ahycaramba' post='2852554' date='Sep...   Sep 19 2020, 08:23 PM
914Toy   My next step is to put some heat reflective film o...   Sep 19 2020, 07:25 PM
914sgofast2   What kind of a controller are you using to contro...   Sep 21 2020, 10:20 AM
914Toy   What kind of a controller are you using to contr...   Sep 21 2020, 10:39 AM
914sgofast2   Thanks for answering my question. I was thinking o...   Sep 21 2020, 11:06 AM
Steve   What kind of a controller are you using to cont...   Sep 21 2020, 01:23 PM
VaccaRabite   I am jealous of a 914 with a 170 amp alternator. ...   Sep 21 2020, 11:13 AM
ClayPerrine   I am jealous of a 914 with a 170 amp alternator. ...   Sep 21 2020, 11:58 AM
Jonny Retrofit   I am jealous of a 914 with a 170 amp alternator....   Sep 21 2020, 01:08 PM
914e   I am jealous of a 914 with a 170 amp alternator. ...   Sep 21 2020, 12:01 PM
Jonny Retrofit   I am jealous of a 914 with a 170 amp alternator. ...   Sep 21 2020, 01:06 PM
Steve   Duplicate ....   Nov 2 2020, 09:05 AM
Steve   Three years ago, I bought the same under dash evap...   Nov 2 2020, 09:17 AM
euro911   Wow, that's pretty cool (no pun intended) :rol...   Nov 2 2020, 02:53 PM
Steve   New Mini cooler with built in vents!! Sam...   Dec 21 2020, 01:21 PM


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