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Thinking of a 3.6 in a '76 914, Need to pass CA smog test |
rd914 |
Jul 13 2005, 03:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 13-April 05 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 3,928 |
I know there are folks in this club that have done it and was wondering if it can still pass smog and if all the smog related equipment fit in the engine bay. I am thinking of putting a bone stock 3.6 and need to start collecting conversion parts.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated. |
eeyore |
Jul 13 2005, 04:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Call any local place -- Dieter's, Black Forest, Personalized Autohaus (Wayne Baker)
Don't know what kind of FI would be on the bone stock 3.6. Apparently it is getting to the point that most every CIS equipped 911 needs new catalytic converters on to get them through smog check. Motronic is your friend. (Why don't you go to the Dr Evil farewell party at the San Diego Brewing Co?) |
Joe Bob |
Jul 13 2005, 04:08 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Won't happen....best to go and do it with a 75 or earlier tub. You need EVERYTHING from the 3.6 which includes the CAT, the gauges and idjut lights.
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lapuwali |
Jul 13 2005, 04:46 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
It could happen, but you'd have to do some custom engineering to make it happen. First, you'd need to use a pre-96 (OBD-II) 3.6, so '89-'95, and earlier would be better, as the EFI electronics will be simpler. This should remove the need for the gauges and whatnot, but expect to do quite a bit of custom wiring, anyway.
You'll need to fab up a complete, custom exhaust to get a 914/6 like header with a pair of small cats or one bigger cat plumbed in. This isn't all that expensive in mild steel. I've had complete systems fabbed up in the last 5 years for under $500, including a cat. You'd need to work out the vapor recovery system (has to be from the 3.6 engine), too. Then, you'd get the whole thing signed off by a referee station, with some special paperwork indicating you'd now have a 914 complying with '89 (or later) smog regs. This all would likely be hard enough and expensive enough that buying and restoring another, earlier, tub would be worthwhile, unless your existing car is "perfect". |
rd914 |
Jul 13 2005, 04:56 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 13-April 05 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 3,928 |
Thank you all for the advise. Maybe I will just keep what I have in it for now. Who knows, smog laws may change next year.
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redshift |
Jul 13 2005, 04:58 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Uhh... with the considerable expense involved in a 3.6, you'd be WAY better off buying another VIN.
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pete-stevers |
Jul 13 2005, 05:02 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
you really want to do a conversion? Eh? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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Grimstead |
Jul 13 2005, 05:39 PM
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Cheaky Monkey Group: Members Posts: 835 Joined: 20-March 05 From: Corona, Ca Member No.: 3,789 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) Find one off a 75... |
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xitspd |
Jul 13 2005, 05:44 PM
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Technology and Tradition 3.6 and 914-6 Group: Members Posts: 1,305 Joined: 17-November 04 From: Foothills of Mt. San Jacinto, CA Member No.: 3,136 |
Go with a 75 or older 914 and do not smog it!
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Maltese Falcon |
Jul 13 2005, 11:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,671 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Since Cali law AB2683 went into effect 04-01-04, are the first 3 registered months (01/ 02/ 03) of '76 cars exempt ?? Didn't someone here try this with Sacramento DMV ??
I've got a Feb. registered '76 that I may convert , currently has a busted 2.0 in it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) MF |
nine14cats |
Jul 14 2005, 12:09 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
It was me who talked with the referees.
Check this link out: Smog Info for Conversions I gave up on my 1976 rust free car and bought JLO. It actually worked out well for me, but the whole smog thing is a can of worms. Good Luck! Bill P. |
Maltese Falcon |
Jul 14 2005, 12:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,671 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Thx. Bill...maybe us Californians would have been luckier with Angelene as our Governor- -pink corvettes (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif)
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redshift |
Jul 14 2005, 04:18 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
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RON S. |
Jul 14 2005, 04:57 AM
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