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Squeaky Front End, Can't Find It |
windforfun |
Sep 22 2020, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,779 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
There are squeaks on both side of the front end. I can't eliminate them with lubricant.
The hardware is original with a sway bar & 48K miles. Any suggestions? Thank you. |
mlindner |
Sep 22 2020, 03:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
windforfun, just to start I would disconnect the front sway bar on both ends....easy to do. Then is squeaks still there, go on to the torsion bars etc. Best, Mark
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BillC |
Sep 22 2020, 03:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 24-April 15 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 18,667 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
It's probably your torsion bars rubbing on the crossmember. The only real fix is to replace the control arm bushings. If the torsion bars are badly worn, they'll need to be replaced too.
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windforfun |
Sep 22 2020, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,779 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
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Mikey914 |
Sep 22 2020, 05:03 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,657 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Can happen as the rubber gets hard over time (and yes will shrink over time) so youmay be hearing some slight movement.
If you haven't replaced these I would suspect this is your issue - https://914rubber.com/front-control-arm-bus...th-install-tool Attached thumbnail(s) |
windforfun |
Sep 22 2020, 06:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,779 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Many thanks!!!
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Mark Henry |
Sep 22 2020, 07:05 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Mikey914 is right, the bushings are the likely cause.
My bushings made the front end rock solid, I've seen others where the bushing was spinning/moving on the shaft, that would cause a squeak. I didn't think my bushings should be bad either, but they were deformed and as hard as a hockey puck. New bushing are suppose to have give, stick to the shaft and wrap/stretch with the movement of the torsion bar. I'd still do the sway bar check as it's easy to do, but those 50 year old bushings need to be replaced IMO. |
RickS |
Sep 22 2020, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 17-April 06 From: 'False City', WA Member No.: 5,880 Region Association: None |
Is your sway bar through the body? If it is, it could be rubbing on the bottom of the fuel tank.
I had an Elephant through the body type added using drop links. It squeaks like crazy when warm. Some type of thermo expansion thing. If the weathers cool, no issue. I have used every lubricant known to man used on the drop links and metal to metal contacts with no luck. Disconnect the drop links, no squeaks. Gets very annoying on a long drive with every bump. Sound familiar? Very interested in your resolution. |
iankarr |
Sep 22 2020, 10:05 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Yep. I had exactly the same squeak...and used the 914Rubber bushings. Have a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AysZlHr2lM...channel=IanKarr and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa-apYYIjlg...channel=IanKarr |
914werke |
Sep 23 2020, 11:35 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,049 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Thanks. With only 48K miles? Yup. Keep in mind its not necessarily wear but time. If they are the OE bushings (probably) they have been supporting the weight of the car in one spot for near 50 yrs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) so the Rubber tends to sag or flatten (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
GregAmy |
Sep 23 2020, 11:38 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,289 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
My front end (the car's) squeaked. I replaced the front control arms bushings...still squeaked (bushings were fine).
Sprayed oil on the swaybar bushings at each of the bar...stopped squeaking. It's starting to squeak again. I'm thinking I'm not gonna replace the control arm bushings this time. |
windforfun |
Sep 23 2020, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,779 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
I put some serious mileage on the car today after lubing all the "usual suspects."
The squeaks are gone. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 23 2020, 07:21 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,838 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
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Mark Henry |
Sep 23 2020, 07:25 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Oil is bad mojo on rubber components, you want a glycerin (soap) based lube.
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