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> Yikes, check your wheel bearings, Here's what I found
DNHunt
post Jul 13 2005, 05:20 PM
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I had a shimmy between 60-70 on speedo for a long time. At slow speeds it felt like the brakes were dragging a little. So I finally jack it up and check the wheel bearings. Left front is loose right front maybe a little loose so, I tighten them up and go out for a drive. Things feel worse so I decide to do a visual on them. Yikes, both outers fell apart.

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post Jul 13 2005, 05:22 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Wow that's unnerving............
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post Jul 13 2005, 05:23 PM
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It is good that you found it before ? I just hate pounding out the races. Good luck Mark
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post Jul 13 2005, 05:26 PM
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wow. those are even worse than mine was.


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post Jul 13 2005, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Headrage @ Jul 13 2005, 06:22 PM)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Wow that's unnerving............

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better to find it like that.... I had a balljoint on my old pickup give out at 50 with NO warning... damn near flipped because of it! very scary feeling... one minute, everything cool, next you are driving on 3 wheels and your tie-rod is acting like a pole-vault
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post Jul 13 2005, 05:27 PM
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how are the spindles?

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post Jul 13 2005, 05:35 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Have you cleaned those up, or were they that dry when removed? They look like they were never packed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)
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post Jul 13 2005, 06:07 PM
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At least 914s aren't like old fords, where the bearing is what holds the axle in.

Doh

That bearing was about 8 months old. It's mate for the other side (that I hadn't gotten around to installing yet) had a defective seal upon close inspection. Needless to say I changed bearing brands.
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post Jul 13 2005, 06:30 PM
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Once after a 4 hour road trip I started to hear a roaring sound from the front end. Once I got to my destination I pulled the front tire, then pulled off the grease cap....... The grease poured out like soup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Pulled the rotor and the bearing came out in pieces.

ahhhh, that was my first wheel bearing change.....sniff, sniff..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif)
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post Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 13 2005, 05:07 PM)
At least 914s aren't like old fords, where the bearing is what holds the axle in.

Doh

That bearing was about 8 months old. It's mate for the other side (that I hadn't gotten around to installing yet) had a defective seal upon close inspection. Needless to say I changed bearing brands.

had that happen to my Mach I.....the power slides around corners didn't help (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif)
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post Jul 13 2005, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (DNHunt @ Jul 13 2005, 03:20 PM)
So I finally jack it up and check the wheel bearings. Left front is loose right front maybe a little loose so, I tighten them up and go out for a drive. Things feel worse so I decide to do a visual on them. Yikes, both outers fell apart.

Dave

You are aware that you don't "tighten" bearings, right????
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post Jul 13 2005, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (jr91472 @ Jul 13 2005, 08:30 PM)
...grease poured out like soup...

greases don't intermix well. it's best to pick a grease and stick with it. if for some reason you decide to "repack" the bearings but you don't know what's in there, it's best to REALLY clean out everything - like solvents and brake cleaners - chemically clean. DO NOT spin the bearings dry with compressed air.

i like Mobil-1 grease, but Swepco moly grease also gets excellent reviews and i may switch to it later on. (it's also great for CV joints, a very demanding application.)
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post Jul 13 2005, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Jul 13 2005, 05:36 PM)
QUOTE (bondo @ Jul 13 2005, 05:07 PM)
At least 914s aren't like old fords, where the bearing is what holds the axle in.

Doh

That bearing was about 8 months old. It's mate for the other side (that I hadn't gotten around to installing yet) had a defective seal upon close inspection. Needless to say I changed bearing brands.

had that happen to my Mach I.....the power slides around corners didn't help (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif)

Hmm, now that you mention it... There was this one right turn on my commute home... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif)
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post Jul 13 2005, 07:37 PM
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YIKES, DAVE, THAT LOOKS KIND OF NASTY, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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post Jul 13 2005, 10:05 PM
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You are aware that you don't "tighten" bearings, right????


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Last week noticed that my recently replaced front bearings were seeming a little sloppy after about 1000 miles, so I loosened the lock coller and each side tightened about 1/3 turn. Did I do sumthin wrong? I don't think so....
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post Jul 13 2005, 10:08 PM
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Dave, good thing you caught it brefore it siezed up at 60 or 70.

What wheels do you run ? And or do you use spacers?

For anyone who uses off set wheels or spacers, on the 914 bearings, keep an eye on them, The large offset wheels and spacers, don't put an even load on the small 914 bearing, the 911 bearing's (and front end) are a much better choice for spacers and large wheel offsets, due to the larger spindel and larger bearings.

The best choice for wheels, is a wheel with an equal, inner and outer wheel width , or as close as possible, for example: 8" wide wheel optimum would be 4" inner spacing and the outer 4", that way the wheel is putting an equal load on the bearing. Unlike a 6" inner spacing with a 2" outer spacing, The 6 inches is putting twice the load on the bearing (extra 2" leverage) thats always pressing the bearing one way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

But, I know, can only use what you can afford, just keep a closer eye on the front end, if you do use other than optimum spacing.
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (V6914 @ Jul 13 2005, 09:08 PM)
Dave, good thing you caught it brefore it siezed up at 60 or 70.

What wheels do you run ? And or do you use spacers?

For anyone who uses off set wheels or spacers, on the 914 bearings, keep an eye on them, The large offset wheels and spacers, don't put an even load on the small 914 bearing, the 911 bearing's (and front end) are a much better choice for spacers and large wheel offsets, due to the larger spindel and larger bearings.

The best choice for wheels, is a wheel with an equal, inner and outer wheel width , or as close as possible, for example: 8" wide wheel optimum would be 4" inner spacing and the outer 4", that way the wheel is putting an equal load on the bearing. Unlike a 6" inner spacing with a 2" outer spacing, The 6 inches is putting twice the load on the bearing (extra 2" leverage) thats always pressing the bearing one way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

But, I know, can only use what you can afford, just keep a closer eye on the front end, if you do use other than optimum spacing.

you missed the mark a little on this. the wheel center line should line up center line of the hub[ or the center of the distance of the wheel bearings]. this puts the load of the wheel equal to both bearings.
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post Jul 14 2005, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jul 13 2005, 06:06 PM)
......it's best to REALLY clean out everything - like solvents and brake cleaners - chemically clean.  DO NOT spin the bearings dry with compressed air.

Could you expand on this? I take it you do not want to wash out the grease with solvent and then blow dry the bearings leaving residue from the solvent. What process do you suggest for cleaning out existing grease?

I think you can use a quickly evaporating solvent to remove all existing grease, apply a coat of the new grease, thoroughly wipe it off using no solvent, then pack the bearings with the new grease.

Sounds a little like overkill to me but what the heck. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) I may have the whole thing wrong.

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post Jul 14 2005, 01:16 AM
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try washing out grease with solvent and then use brake clean or carb cleaner to wash out remaining deposits let air dry [ should take but a minute] then pack um up.
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QUOTE (messix @ Jul 13 2005, 10:18 PM)
QUOTE (V6914 @ Jul 13 2005, 09:08 PM)
Dave, good thing you caught it brefore it siezed up at 60 or 70.

What wheels do you run ? And or do you use spacers?

For anyone who uses off set wheels or spacers, on the 914 bearings, keep an eye on them, The large offset wheels and spacers, don't put an even load on the small 914 bearing, the 911 bearing's (and front end) are a much better choice for spacers and large wheel offsets, due to the larger spindel and larger bearings.

The best choice for wheels, is a wheel with an equal, inner and outer wheel width , or as close as possible, for example: 8" wide wheel  optimum would be 4" inner spacing and the outer 4", that way the wheel is putting an equal load on the bearing.  Unlike a 6" inner spacing with a 2" outer spacing, The 6 inches is putting twice the load on the bearing (extra 2" leverage) thats always pressing the bearing one way. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

But, I know, can only use what you can afford, just keep a closer eye on the front end, if you do use other than optimum spacing.

you missed the mark a little on this. the wheel center line should line up center line of the hub[ or the center of the distance of the wheel bearings]. this puts the load of the wheel equal to both bearings.

Your correct, my statement was to make aware the pit falls of offset wheels and spacers, how ever incorrect it was. And I hope it will make people think more, and ask more questions, and service there cars better.

I, wonder how many people, as soon as they can, will jack up their cars, pull off the wheels and check there bearings, and the smart ones will go by a pair of inner bearing seals $3 to $4 apiece, some grease, pull their rotors, repack their bearings with new seals.

People will start feeling every little thing in there steering now, or at least the ones that read this post,

Paranoia, can be a good thing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

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