Weapons grade versus more subtle 914/6 builds Options

[john77]

The gold 2.9 twin plug on bringatrailer just sold for $93K (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-porsche-914-6-8/

[Mueller]

The gold 2.9 twin plug on bringatrailer just sold for $93K (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-porsche-914-6-8/

Bought by a Ikonick Motors in Florida, aka Barry Skolnick. The place is listed as a dealership, could be for tax/registration use.

[Cairo94507]

That sold for almost what I thought it would. I was guessing $100K tops. That is a nice car and they will surely enjoy it. I hope they drive it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[john77]

Yeah, it looks like a gorgeous build. Seems like a good deal, no way you could pay someone to build one for less than that.

That sold for almost what I thought it would. I was guessing $100K tops. That is a nice car and they will surely enjoy it. I hope they drive it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Tdskip]

Going back up for sale I bet, $125k plus asking.

[Tdskip]

I have looked the other way on this thread long enough, hoping its terminology would go away, but it seems to be proliferating the longer this thread lingers. "Weapons grade" is not cute, not flattering - it can be offensive to some. It stigmatizes and mischaracterizes our cars.

References to "weapons grade" and "914" in the same sentence are spreading the wrong message about our cars. Can we just forget this term please? Lets agree to not glorify violence. Pick a more respectful term.

914s are not weapons. With all the recent press about mass shootings and related mayhem, lets not associate our cars with violence.

Hi Jeff, I borrowed that phrase from Keith Martin at SCM

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Here we go;

More subtle 914/6 on BAT

[Tdskip]

One day left but still quite cheap as far as these go. Last two hours will tell.

[horizontally-opposed]

One day left but still quite cheap as far as these go. Last two hours will tell.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Still quite cheap indeed.

If the paint is anywhere near as nice as it looks in the photos I checked out (didn't do a deep dive) and the engine work is as good as the lineage of hands suggest, the paint, engine conversion, and engine would be $50-75k to duplicate on their own. It's a great color, too. Most of the stuff I'd change can be filed under "fun details/personal preferences": returning the window/targa trim to stock, stock mirrors, bare metal instead of red calipers, 15x6 deep sixes, interior freshening, etc.—stuff that can be done over time while enjoying a six-cylinder 914.

[horizontally-opposed]

To Jeff's earlier point, I appreciate him raising it and can see that—as a while back we decided to remove a lot of references to certain subjects in the writings we publish as a result of some of the more toxic discussions of late...I feel "Porsche" reading should be an escape at some level, and that some subjects distract from THE subject folks show up for.

And yet, as an editor I understand the application of the term for the discussion at hand—and instantly understood it to mean 3.6/3.8/4.0 builds with flares and all the fixins. So I can see this one from both sides...

[Tdskip]

I certainly did not intend to offend anyone by using the SCM term.

[Cairo94507]

I was not the least offended by the phrase. To me it just meant well built and designed to race or drive aggressively with all of the bells and whistles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[cali914]

From track only car to street hotrod. I added an interior, full exterior refresh and repaint, muffler, and softened the spring rates. It's loud on full throttle and high rpm, but as reasonable short drive toy. No heater, no wipers, no radio, still has the fire system and the 3.4 makes probably 260 hp at the wheels with the muffler installed (dyno at 290 rwhp with open exhaust).

30 rear wheel hp just by swapping muffler? What type of dyno were you on? That Black is super sexy.......

[horizontally-opposed]

One day left but still quite cheap as far as these go. Last two hours will tell.

This one just got interesting as a more subtle 914-6 build per the title of this thread. Price has nearly doubled to $30k with 3 hours to go…

[Tdskip]

I have to embarrassingly admit I’ve been watching this one in real time

[Tdskip]

$43,000 no sale.

Seems to me like it should have sold.

[Gint]

I had that in my head at $40k. It's a great build. But to be worth more than that, it needs a fair amount of finish work. Unless a 2.2S engine with miles on it is worth substantially more than I thought. Maybe it is...

[Mueller]

$43,000 no sale.

Seems to me like it should have sold.

Would like to know what the reserve was. How close was that $43K?

[horizontally-opposed]

$43k no sale is an interesting data point for "more subtle" six conversions as the mechanicals/conversion are very appealing, and the paint looks really nice in a great period color.

I don't blame the seller for keeping the car, and think some "easy" things held this 914 back from generating higher bids with that crowd—stock brightwork and mirrors, brake calipers that aren't painted red, deep sixes with period tires, a period Momo with a horn button, a fresher interior, a rear valance for a sport muffler, no engine-side sound insulation or factory -4 insulation, etc etc. All details/matters of taste, but the 914s that seem to do well nail the details and are more or less "factory right" plus widely accepted or liked upgrades such as 16-inch Fuchs or Euro lenses. This car seems to have the expensive, time-consuming stuff (paint/body and six conversion) very right, and would have been a steal at $43k in my view…as the new owner can sort the easy/fun stuff to their liking while enjoying the car.

[Gint]

$43k + fees = $45k. The best case scenario for that car is $50k. I Looked closely at those pictures. While the paint is presentable, it's a driver quality respray, not a bare metal job. That car needs lots of sorting to get any more than that in my opinion. We all have opinions and I don't want to argue about it though. For some reason this is like the accident on the other side of the highway that I can't look away from.