How fast is fast enough – Turbocharging the LS, Screamsicle gets a Turbo |
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How fast is fast enough – Turbocharging the LS, Screamsicle gets a Turbo |
dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 02:27 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yeah, I know its nuts. But we’re going to turbo the Screamsicle. (also known as Morpheus..)
For you that aren’t familiar with the car, it’s a 5.7 LS6 engine that has many goodies. The dyno sheet I was given with the car shows 430 rwhp. My dyno showed 362 rwhp. But I’m thinking that was mostly the differences in dynos. Either way, both numbers are thrown around. We’ll go with 362 going forward. We’ll be adding a VS Racing 7875 Turbo with .96ar and V-band connections. With minimum boost I expect to be close to 500rwhp. We’ll use that for AX and track days at least to start. The drag strip is where we’ll eventually turn it up to about 14psi. That will give us approx. 700rwhp and hopefully set a mark to be beat. I go into why and everything else in the video, but really, it’s because I want to… Here’s the intro video for the LS Turbo series on our Budget Outlaws channel. https://youtu.be/6_Mlwf0nHLw |
dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 02:33 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Besides building the turbo kit, I have a lot of work to do:
More fuel delivery is a given. We’ll be using E85 for the 14psi runs. The engine will come apart for a refresh and gaping the rings for boost. I need to rework the brakes. They stop OK, but just OK isn’t good enough. Build a front splitter, possibly make a flat bottom for under the engine. Rework the front fiberglass for more cooling. Ala the original build that Bill did. Possibly a wing, I know it’s a little extreme, but that’s where this is going and from my research the spoilers don’t have much downforce due to airflow. And then maybe I’ll finally get around to painting it… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
sixnotfour |
Dec 5 2020, 03:38 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
remember when
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AZBanks |
Dec 5 2020, 04:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,057 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.
— Mark Donohue |
dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 04:54 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
remember when Whenever I here that quote from Keith Black I think of this video. 32psi broke the dyno.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHod9SRuiHo |
dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 04:55 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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r_towle |
Dec 5 2020, 06:31 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,564 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Is that the car from NJ?
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dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 06:35 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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tygaboy |
Dec 5 2020, 07:34 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
"If more is good, too much is just enough."
I vote twin turbos. I mean, who doesn't love twins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Dan, I cant wait to see this happen! If there's anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. |
wndsrfr |
Dec 5 2020, 08:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Go with Wilwood calipers & rotors--the ones I have are 4 piston using Porterfield pads meant for stock cars--like way too much brakes for my 1950 pounds & 215 hp. Search on my name and wilwood for description of the specific calipers/rotors--BTW, rotors are like $40 each--hard to beat! For drag use go with Porterfield's pads that have strong bite without needing to be hot...
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dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 09:11 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
"If more is good, too much is just enough." I vote twin turbos. I mean, who doesn't love twins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Dan, I cant wait to see this happen! If there's anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. It's your OCD setting in. You just can't have things uneven. I'm surprised you don't have a McClaren seat in the middle of you car. LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) But really, Twins would look cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
dan10101 |
Dec 5 2020, 09:12 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Go with Wilwood calipers & rotors--the ones I have are 4 piston using Porterfield pads meant for stock cars--like way too much brakes for my 1950 pounds & 215 hp. Search on my name and wilwood for description of the specific calipers/rotors--BTW, rotors are like $40 each--hard to beat! For drag use go with Porterfield's pads that have strong bite without needing to be hot... I'll check it out. I already have 930 brakes all around, So they should work, but somethings not right with the balance. |
914forme |
Dec 6 2020, 08:29 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
"If more is good, too much is just enough." I vote twin turbos. I mean, who doesn't love twins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Dan, I cant wait to see this happen! If there's anything I can do to help, please don't hesitate to let me know. LS Twin Turbo is a great choice, pattern the design after the twin turbo BMW V8s used in the M cars, great engine design. Water to air intercoolers for each turbo. Just need to size the turbos right, and you're good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
FL000 |
Dec 6 2020, 09:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 31-January 12 From: Lancaster, CA Member No.: 14,076 Region Association: Southern California |
Looking forward to seeing this come together. Does the bottom end of the engine need any help (crank/rods) or good as is?
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r_towle |
Dec 6 2020, 10:46 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,564 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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Mueller |
Dec 6 2020, 10:52 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
That'll be fun for sure...
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dan10101 |
Dec 7 2020, 12:34 AM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Looking forward to seeing this come together. Does the bottom end of the engine need any help (crank/rods) or good as is? No, just a refresh and probably more ring gap. It's forged Crank, rods and pistons, decent heads. Bill really built it right. But 11.2-1 compression will require e85 or something better and really proper tuning at 14 PSI of boost. |
dan10101 |
Dec 7 2020, 12:36 AM
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mbseto |
Dec 7 2020, 09:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Good grief. How much fun is a person allowed to have?
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cali914 |
Dec 7 2020, 11:05 AM
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cali914 Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 26-April 06 From: Berkeley Ca. Member No.: 5,934 Region Association: Northern California |
Great question and I think there is a simple answer. Fast enough is when it breaks, and on the street the more hp, the more wheel spin, or something has to give. So I guess the answer is there is a limit to no limits. LOL Twin Turbo LS you have to get the gearbox from the C8. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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