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tie rod question, renew or replace |
Speedo |
Dec 28 2020, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
In the Pelican 911 world...the general practice is too replace used tie rods with turbo tie rods. As I put my 6 back together I see that both tie rods are in good shape, but could use some love and a re-paint. What is the consensus on re-using tie rods on our 914s?
It is basically the exact same steering rack as the early 911s. And on my 911 I usually do the bump steering modification to allow a little bit more ride adjustment without compromising the steering geometry. Advice? |
bkrantz |
Dec 28 2020, 08:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,768 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I rebuilt the original tie rods, with the bushings from 914 Rubber. I am months away from driving, so can't comment on effectiveness.
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914Sixer |
Dec 29 2020, 08:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,885 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
If it is an original car, keep it stock. Otherwise turbo tie rods are a little smoother.
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BillJ |
Dec 29 2020, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,098 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
Change them. They improve the handling feel dramatically and are a no-brainer. Save the old ones if you want to keep them with the car for originality sake. Unless you are competing in national level concourse, then keep them on the car.
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brant |
Dec 29 2020, 09:29 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,625 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I say change them also
but its not my money.... however even with new boots... they are old and likely worn The turbos work so well you still need to drive my black car with 5 bolt suspension and brakes brant |
mepstein |
Dec 29 2020, 12:47 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
With your modded suspension and brakes, I can’t imagine you wouldn’t use the turbo rods.
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pete000 |
Dec 29 2020, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Turbo tie rods are worth it.
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914_teener |
Dec 29 2020, 01:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
In the Pelican 911 world...the general practice is too replace used tie rods with turbo tie rods. As I put my 6 back together I see that both tie rods are in good shape, but could use some love and a re-paint. What is the consensus on re-using tie rods on our 914s? It is basically the exact same steering rack as the early 911s. And on my 911 I usually do the bump steering modification to allow a little bit more ride adjustment without compromising the steering geometry. Advice? So original six? Original set up or is your car a conversion? If it is a conversion there is NO good reason not to use the TT rods if you are using a non-stock set up. So if the stance is altered from stock I'd definatly put the rack spacers in and set up the TT rods. Also....tires and struts would be also be useful to know what you are using if you want advice. If you are restoring an original six I'd leave it alone or rebuild the stock units. |
Speedo |
Dec 29 2020, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
So original six?
Yes If it is a conversion there is NO good reason not to use the TT rods if you are using a non-stock set up. So if the stance is altered from stock I'd definatly put the rack spacers in and set up the TT rods. I always lower my cars to suit my taste so I plan to use the spacers regardless. Also....tires and struts would be also be useful to know what you are using if you want advice. PO was an auto-x-er and I have not evaluated what the suspension modifications were...just planned to re-use. He was running huge brakes up front with 21 sway bars. I will run 15 x 6s with 205 50 15s all around. If you are restoring an original six I'd leave it alone or rebuild the stock units. It is original, but after being restored, it will be driven. Inclined to go the TT route. If I ever sell the tie rods are easy to swap back out. I don't show my cars. |
bkrantz |
Dec 29 2020, 08:01 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,768 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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914_teener |
Dec 29 2020, 09:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,198 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
So original six? Yes If it is a conversion there is NO good reason not to use the TT rods if you are using a non-stock set up. So if the stance is altered from stock I'd definatly put the rack spacers in and set up the TT rods. I always lower my cars to suit my taste so I plan to use the spacers regardless. Also....tires and struts would be also be useful to know what you are using if you want advice. PO was an auto-x-er and I have not evaluated what the suspension modifications were...just planned to re-use. He was running huge brakes up front with 21 sway bars. I will run 15 x 6s with 205 50 15s all around. If you are restoring an original six I'd leave it alone or rebuild the stock units. It is original, but after being restored, it will be driven. Inclined to go the TT route. If I ever sell the tie rods are easy to swap back out. I don't show my cars. I ran those same tires. If it is a driver it is one of the better changes for the money and time. The steering feedback is like night and day.....so for a driver.....do it you wont regret it. I ran a stock sway bar with adustable Tarret drop links instead of the stock ones. |
BillJ |
Dec 30 2020, 06:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,098 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
Unless you are having the car judged in concourse events and/or have to have it exactly like original and are only trailering the car get the turbo tie rods. Its a much better driving experience. I doubt anyone will be like "yeah its such a nice car but did you hear he put turbo tie rods on it? Such a shame."
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Luke M |
Dec 30 2020, 06:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,372 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Install the turbo units and forget about it. You will not regret it. Plus you'll need a special tool to setup the factory units where the TT you will not. You will need to get a thin wrench to install the inner turbo tie rod. I forget the size but I bought mine at a local bike shop. Do not destroy the steel bands on your old set as you'll need them.
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mepstein |
Dec 30 2020, 08:00 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,276 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Install the turbo units and forget about it. You will not regret it. Plus you'll need a special tool to setup the factory units where the TT you will not. You will need to get a thin wrench to install the inner turbo tie rod. I forget the size but I bought mine at a local bike shop. Do not destroy the steel bands on your old set as you'll need them. 15mm pedal wrench. |
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