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krazykonrad
post Jan 5 2021, 08:25 AM
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It looks like the 4 cyl. head nuts are NLA from Porsche. The PET lists them as M10. Can I use M10 nuts from the local hardware store?

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post Jan 5 2021, 08:41 AM
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No, if you were closer I'd send you a set.
Used T4 head nuts are reusable.
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post Jan 5 2021, 08:46 AM
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ARP used to make a set.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:07 AM
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Thats interesting.
Why can't you use regular m10 nuts for the cylinder heads?

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post Jan 5 2021, 01:09 PM
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Thats interesting.
Why can't you use regular m10 nuts for the cylinder heads?

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The M10 nuts for the heads are 15mm heads, and thicker. The ones at your local hardware store are going to be 17mm heads, and won't allow you to put a socket on them in the recesses in the cylinder heads.

There are plenty of spares out there. Just hit up a VW wrecking yard with a screwdriver and a 15mm socket.

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post Jan 5 2021, 01:54 PM
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I have a bunch of new ones that I had zinc plated. PM me if you want some.

They are 10mm tall.


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post Jan 6 2021, 03:49 PM
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Are hardened nuts needs for head studs?
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post Jan 6 2021, 05:32 PM
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Are hardened nuts needs for head studs?


Yes, finding the exact specification of hardness is not easy to find.
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post Jan 6 2021, 06:54 PM
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Hardware that has a part number that starts with N in the PET, you can use non VW parts. Other things like head nuts have a specific part number. You can find them still searching for "021 101 457."

The 914 PET doesn't list them but it's in the VW bus Parts book I have.
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post Jan 7 2021, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Jan 5 2021, 08:25 AM) *

It looks like the 4 cyl. head nuts are NLA from Porsche. The PET lists them as M10. Can I use M10 nuts from the local hardware store?

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Konrad


https://dunebuggywarehouse.com/hex-nut-cyli...d-21101457.html

This place appears to have them new.

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post Jan 7 2021, 11:23 AM
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Hardware that has a part number that starts with N in the PET, you can use non VW parts. Other things like head nuts have a specific part number. You can find them still searching for "021 101 457."

The 914 PET doesn't list them but it's in the VW bus Parts book I have.


I have them in my PET version.



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post Jan 7 2021, 12:39 PM
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The washers are still available from Porsche. You would think that they are some special heat-treated part or something, but the same part number pops up all over, including in the suspension.
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post Jan 7 2021, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Jan 6 2021, 06:54 PM) *

Hardware that has a part number that starts with N in the PET, you can use non VW parts. Other things like head nuts have a specific part number. You can find them still searching for "021 101 457."

The 914 PET doesn't list them but it's in the VW bus Parts book I have.


I have them in my PET version.


Ah nice, I see them now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 7 2021, 01:21 PM
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Anyone know what the pitch is on these nuts?

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Anyone know what the pitch is on these nuts?

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post Jan 7 2021, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Jan 7 2021, 11:39 AM) *

The washers are still available from Porsche. You would think that they are some special heat-treated part or something, but the same part number pops up all over, including in the suspension.


Most suspension washers are heat treated as well.
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QUOTE(914e @ Jan 7 2021, 02:34 PM) *

QUOTE(krazykonrad @ Jan 7 2021, 11:39 AM) *

The washers are still available from Porsche. You would think that they are some special heat-treated part or something, but the same part number pops up all over, including in the suspension.


Most suspension washers are heat treated as well.

Yea, I noticed some of the suspension lots are grade 10 instead of the usual grade 8
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