 whats it typically cost to have flares buttwelded, proffesionally on the rear qtrs? |
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| Reiche |
 Jul 20 2005, 09:01 PM
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I have no personal experience welding, other than a few scrap pieces trying to learn, so I have no opinion worth quoting. Interestingly, in the shop I worked in, 356s got the gas treatment, pretty much everything else was MIGed. John's side-by-side weld comparison shows the heat-affected zones for both methods and what is required to clean them up afterwards. He admits that gas is harder to weld with, but is his preference. MIG away, if it works for you. I was just implying that if the old guy can torch them for $600 it sounds like he may have good reasons to use gas over MIG. |
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| McMark |
Jul 20 2005, 09:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Experience required to get good welds (IMHO):
GAS: |------------------------------------------------| MIG: |-----------| TIG: |---------------------------------| These values are subjective of course. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Basically, anyone who has enough experience can use anything. But you need lots more experience with GAS than with MIG. If I were in your situation I'd arrange to come by one of his current projects and see how it looks. |
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| John |
Jul 20 2005, 09:48 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I weld them on using MIG. I prefer MIG as I believe that it will yield a cleaner weld with less impurities as the weld is created inside the shielding gas (which keeps the normal oxydation from occuring while the metal is liquid).
Just my Opinion. Front Flare MIG welded on: Attached image(s) 
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| Joe Bob |
Jul 20 2005, 09:50 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Pay for the gas and the wire....you can come up here I'll show ya how to do it.....
I have a 110 argon gas wire fed unit.... |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jul 20 2005, 09:59 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i dont want wavy davy panels....and i know id fuck it up..... thats why i want to emply a master...like joe..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Joe Bob |
Jul 20 2005, 10:05 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
That's why you use the shielding gas.....ain't rocket science......ya go slow and grind the welds.....and the fuck ups.....but hey it's yer money knumb nutz.....
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| Series9 |
Jul 21 2005, 09:43 AM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Z is right Aaron. Go up and take a class. You may decide to do it yourself.
Like I said before, I find it hard to believe that no body in your area has the welding skills to do this job. No matter what you do, the panel will require some body work after welding. |
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| Allan |
Jul 21 2005, 09:49 AM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Let's have a Aarons flare installation B-B-Q at Z's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drunk.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/party.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rock_band.gif) |
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| ematulac |
Jul 21 2005, 10:04 AM
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914 addict Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 24-November 03 From: Palmdale, CA Member No.: 1,382 |
I'd be down for that. I'd love to be able to do my own flares. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)
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| andys |
Jul 21 2005, 10:54 AM
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Mark, That's probably a good accessment. Though not auto bodywork, I have welded a lot of sheetmetal and must admit I prefer oxy/acetylene. You can actually stitch weld quite nicely, and the control over what you're doing is better, IMO. Down side is the amount of oxidization resulting from no shielding gas. I'm not crazy with the results I get with TIG welding sheetmetal bodywork, but I admit to having less experience in that regard. MIG is a lot more user friendly to the lesser experienced. I believe welding training should begin with a oxy/acet torch........after that, you can weld just about anything. Andy |
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| Scott S |
Jul 21 2005, 11:25 AM
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Small Member Group: Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 633 |
So.... um .... Joe.....
How about a plane ticket, two lift tickets to Breckenridge and a place to stay in Dillon for a couple of nights... oh, and beer! |
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| J P Stein |
Jul 21 2005, 04:39 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Hammer/Dolly/bondo....maybe 50-70 bucks for 225s.
If I can do it, any fool can. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Series9 |
Jul 21 2005, 05:10 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
OK. But the ticket and lift tickets won't be necessary. I need to drive up to meet some of the Denver crew anyway. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif) |
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Jul 21 2005, 06:04 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
OK, here's what I'm going to do:
Quit my job, buy an RV w/trailer, put my welders and tools in the trailer and then drive around the country welding 914s. I can make a good living at that, right? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) |
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| ewdysar |
Jul 22 2005, 02:42 PM
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What happens here, stays here. Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Altadena, CA Member No.: 3,030 |
I've got a set of AA flares in a box ready to install. If we could get some sort of group rate, or a crazy day of cutting and welding, I'll bring my car. I got the same $1600 quote from BBR and haven't called the gas man yet. The thing that I'm most short of is time. If anyone can organize something, I'm in...
Eric Altadena (near Pasadena, but higher) I've got a set of inner longs to go in too, but that'll mean ripping out the interior as well. Joe, you're hired (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
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