Bad Day at Road America, Brian Redmon International Challenge '05 |
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Bad Day at Road America, Brian Redmon International Challenge '05 |
seanery |
Jul 18 2005, 10:36 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
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GaroldShaffer |
Jul 18 2005, 10:42 AM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,622 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
in teh comments below the pcitures they were talking about cheater cars, what does he mean?
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seanery |
Jul 18 2005, 10:46 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
7/8ths scale cars that were passed (once or twice) off as full size.
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URY914 |
Jul 18 2005, 11:19 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,562 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I posted some of those pics in the thread earlier today.
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sixnotfour |
Jul 18 2005, 11:43 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Holy Cow thats Nasty, The orange with silver stripe Corvette is Bruce Leven from the 962 days of Baysde Disposal.
Hope he 's is OK looks like they put a collar on his neck and strecher. The Candian BFG corvette belonged to another local Bill Cotter. Steve Mcdonald should be in there some where . Leven's OK i am told This post has been edited by sixnotfour: Jul 18 2005, 12:29 PM |
machina |
Jul 18 2005, 11:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
thank god there were no fires, was everyone OK?
true life is definitely stranger than fiction. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) |
john rogers |
Jul 18 2005, 12:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
That sure is a narrow piece of racetrack! Some of the streets we race on in Mexico are wider than that.
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Dave_Darling |
Jul 18 2005, 12:32 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,984 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
My thought is that he is talking about cars that were running "non-historic" engines, primarily. (He said something about "strokers" a little bit later, I think.) "That car only raced with a 289 CI motor, but he's got a 440 in it now! Cheater!!!" --DD |
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john rogers |
Jul 18 2005, 12:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
Dave's pretty much right about the "cheater" definition. I looked at several of the 1969 Z28's at the CA Speedway vintage race several weeks ago and none of the engines were the familiar 302 with the "camel hump" fuel injection heads. Everything was after market and that is why some of them can make 600 to 700 HP with little trouble. I used to own a 1969 Z28 and although it was fast, it was nothing like the engines in these cars now!!
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Randal |
Jul 18 2005, 02:05 PM
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I don't know why, for sure, but there is more cheating going on in "Historics," than with any other racing venue I've seen. And there seems to be a definate bias towards certain cars doing whatever they want. Like Porsche's having to run stock size DOT tires, like 205's and Vettes/Mustangs and others running whatever they can jam under the flared wheelwells. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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URY914 |
Jul 18 2005, 02:13 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,562 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Look at the 914's that run in these events. They're not period correct at all. The body maybe a GT but under it it's anything goes. The Gunner 914 is 100% carbon fiber body. Did they have C/F in 1970? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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Randal |
Jul 18 2005, 02:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
You're right, but out here, within the "Victory Lane" PC arena, you seldom if ever see a 914. |
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ArtechnikA |
Jul 18 2005, 03:49 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
we didn't even have carbon in 1970. the dinosaurs died in 1973 and coal formed right after that. we've come a long way in 35 years kiddies ! |
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morgan |
Jul 18 2005, 04:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 28-March 03 From: milwaukee WI Member No.: 488 |
I was there, NO one I repeat No was hurt bad. hurt neck and soar back thats all.
It happen at the start of the race, know to stores will let you know the right one when I can confirm it. I will not spread rumors . Four of those drivers are good friends. They all are heart broken about what happen. There were 17 cars involved in it most drove to the pits on there own. John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) P.S> the track is 36 feet wide |
spare time toys |
Jul 18 2005, 04:58 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I like Road America,its a fun track (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) . We used to go there a bunch back in the early 80s. I blew out the rear end of my 73 Vette by turn three (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) and that was during the Corvette Corral parade lap (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) its not a narow as it looks in that photo.
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serge914 |
Jul 18 2005, 05:36 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Laval Quebec Canada Member No.: 723 |
There are some realy great pictures on this site
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serge914 |
Jul 18 2005, 05:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Laval Quebec Canada Member No.: 723 |
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SpecialK |
Jul 18 2005, 05:40 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797 |
This quote kind of sums it up:
chuck 18-Jul-2005 21:20 "I am glad everyone made it out ok. Thats a lot of unhappy rich white guys right there... :-)" |
Randal |
Jul 18 2005, 06:39 PM
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And one of the reasons they did is that they all were running fuel cells, 5 or 6 points belts, cages / adequate roll bars, racing seats, driving suits, gloves and (proper) racing shoes, i.e., not gym shoes. |
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Bill Shaw |
Jul 22 2005, 03:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 11-August 03 From: Kalamazoo, MI Member No.: 1,013 |
Just got back from Wisconsin and saw the pics. Horrible! - but understandable, also. I've raced everything from a Spitfire to a Formula Atlantic at Elkhart from the 70s to the 90s and still remember going up the hill to the start in a field of 80 Formula Fords in fear that some a**hole in 40th position wouldn't try to jump the field by nailing it coming out of station 14 in the hope that the flag had already dropped and he could pick up a couple of positions.
I'm also surprised that there wasn't a similar incident in the "touring" sessions on the track. I took Porky II out on Sunday and the speed difference among the cars was unbelievable! I followed a Buick down the back straight at 70, passed him and was passed myself by a Carrera who must have been doing 130 (all right, I was doing an indicated 110 when he passed me - mea culpa). Must admit, it felt good to shake the 914's cobwebs off. |
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