OT What's it worth 69 911 L ?, Dark side comes calling.... Options

[swood]

QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jul 21 2005, 10:59 AM)

T - 125 HP @5800, ~123 lbs-ft torque @ 4200 from 2,2 liters, Zenith or Weber carbs. '70 was the first year for piston squirters, so that's good. Marelli dizzy less so unless it's been replaced (probable...) expensive clutch parts - 2 years of the Type 911 Transmission only (early pattern, later flywheel, unique clutch disk & pressure plate.) what can you do? what can't you do? a 915 drops right in (you'll need a new mounting plate and shifter tower - or Rennshift) and you should be good up to 3,6. (G50 requires modification of the torsion tube and you'd probably be better off with a newer car...) the oil tank should be updated if you want to take the car and a bigger engine on the track. i like the LWB/LH cars but they do have their quirks from time to time.

Not sure which diz it has. It has less than 100K on it. Stock engine with Rebuilt top end, chain tensioners, wires,plugs,points,cap,rotor,aircraft fuel lines,batteries,ignition switch,alternator,rebuilt carbs,cd unit,fuse blocks,turbo tie rods,flushed brake lines,painted calipers,polished fuchs,comp drivers seat,racing wheel & 3 point harness,stock radio w/am/fm in the glove box,rebuilt pedal cluster w/ brass bushings,bra,clutch cable.

And its a 5 spd.

Sorry for the hijack. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

[GWN7]

QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jul 21 2005, 10:49 AM)

i don't recall when the A-pillar VIN location became US law. it'll be on the data plate in the front trunk just to the left of the latch receptacle, and it will be on the EPA sticker on the driver's B-pillar just below the door lock -- if cars had EPS stickers in 1968 - i don't recall when that started either...

No EPA sticker on the door jam, I looked there....

Thanks if you find the values.

[ArtechnikA]

coupe, yes ?

poor - 9888
good - 11242
exc - 15050

Targas "about" a grand more.

a car with extensive rust repair and many glass replacement parts may be "beyond poor" so don't go thinking $9900 is your lower bound...

anyway - i don't justify these numbers, and i'm not consulted on their creation - i just report them.

BTW - that's about a $5k increase across the board since 2001.

[anthony]

Here are the latest numbers from Excellence's price guide (May 2005):

1968 911L
poor $9,888
good $11,242
excellent $15,050

1969 911T
poor $9,379
good $10,663
excellent $14,275

These early cars have really popped up in value so my guess is cars in 8/10 condition would probably fall in closer to the Excellent value. These cars are definitely worth repairing and restoring.

[GWN7]

Thanks guys....it looks like a road trip is in order for a closer PPI and see how it runs.

[swood]

QUOTE (anthony @ Jul 21 2005, 03:21 PM)

Here are the latest numbers from Excellence's price guide (May 2005):

What is Excellence saying for a '71 T ?

[scotty b]

I would suggest that you also take a hard look at the torsion bar housing. I have personally seen 4 cars that had it rusted through, and it is a BITCH to replace. Usually not werth it. Don't think that being a one year car will elevate it to 67-S status, like some people may. It's a nice car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) but not a "special" car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

[Cap'n Krusty]

QUOTE (boxstr @ Jul 21 2005, 07:05 AM)

911L also had the hydropneumatic front suspension. Seems liek everyone swapped it for the Konis. Rust: check the battery boxes and the front suspension mounting points. Also the rear window area. Reach up in the engine compartment and check under the rear window shelf. CCLIN911PORSCHE

Nope. Hydropneumatic struts appeared with the 911e in '69 or '70, along with the 14" wheels (Comfort Package.). They were available in the T, as well, from 1970. The 911L is a 1968 only standard 911 with the S level trim package. It has an air injection system driven off the left cam. I don't think the trim package included the uprated shocks and anti roll bar(s) of the 911S. I haven't seen one in years, and I don't recall if the front brakes were vented, but I'm pretty certain the rears weren't. Personally, I think the '68 is a bad year, and I'd avoid one if given a choice of another car. First year for the Sportomatic, BTW. The Cap'n

[Cap'n Krusty]

QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jul 21 2005, 10:59 AM)

QUOTE (swood @ Jul 21 2005, 02:32 PM) ...I'm looking at a '71 T.  Is it that much of a dog?  What can you do to a stock t to bump it up? i have a '71E. a 915 drops right in (you'll need a new mounting plate and shifter tower - or Rennshift) and you should be good up to 3,6.

"Drops right in? Right, if you consider beating the tunnel upwards with a BFH "dropping right in". And in the SWB cars, there are axle issues, as well as drivetrain length. Not insurmountable, but there nevertheless. The Cap'n

[ArtechnikA]

QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Jul 21 2005, 08:48 PM)

QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Jul 21 2005, 10:59 AM) QUOTE (swood @ Jul 21 2005, 02:32 PM) ...I'm looking at a '71 T. a 915 drops right in "Drops right in? Right, if you consider beating the tunnel upwards with a BFH "dropping right in". And in the SWB cars...

there are some clearancing issues i have been advised of.

as the car in question is a '71, it is a LWB car...

[Porsche Rescue]

68 L had unique one year only vinyl interior trim, sometimes called "elephant hide", on the lower dash and door panels. Also had velour carpet rather than the perlon of the standard car. I once had a soft window 911L targa. I always believed it was a European S with a standard US 911 engine. Mine had no smog pump but it was likely removed before I got the car in 1990.