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> HID headlights in the pods for Neo914, Pop-up headlights are not in the plans..
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post Jul 31 2005, 04:57 AM
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QUOTE (Neo914-6 @ Jul 31 2005, 02:58 AM)
Strange, these smilies ((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) = B in parenthesis

Funny as hell... it looks like you are being an ass... like..

((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Speed Limit 150... yeah right..

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((IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Eat your vegetables... yeah right..

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I love the ideas you have, I hope it's alot easier than it looks!



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post Jul 31 2005, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (redshift @ Jul 31 2005, 02:57 AM)
I love the ideas you have, I hope it's alot easier than it looks!



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The mount will also serve as the corner filler where the front rail "can" be mounted on the door. There is method to the madness....
I just realized that corner mount didn't make sense unless you know I was talking about single glass side windows...

opps, more mad ideas are slipping out.

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post Jul 31 2005, 12:19 PM
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Hey...


What are you going to use for side mirrors felix?

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post Jul 31 2005, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Jul 28 2005, 10:03 PM)
interesting (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

what you want is "optically" clear plastic (polycarbonate or acrylic)....when bent/formed the light rays are not "bent" or diffussed too much (fighter pilot cockpit or bubble of a helicopter)

This stuff Mike is talking about is really nice and the way to go IMHO. It's very easy to work with. With a little heat-gun application and a little compressed air you can quickly make a really nice domed lens. I've seen a couple of guys make homebuild aircraft canopies from scratch with it, and they came out beautifully. Very slick.

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post Jul 31 2005, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (airsix @ Jul 31 2005, 10:34 AM)
QUOTE (Mueller @ Jul 28 2005, 10:03 PM)
interesting (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

what you want is "optically" clear plastic (polycarbonate or acrylic)....when bent/formed the light rays are not "bent" or diffussed too much (fighter pilot cockpit or bubble of a helicopter)

This stuff Mike is talking about is really nice and the way to go IMHO. It's very easy to work with. With a little heat-gun application and a little compressed air you can quickly make a really nice domed lens. I've seen a couple of guys make homebuild aircraft canopies from scratch with it, and they came out beautifully. Very slick.

-Ben M.

Yeah I've seen this done, maybe I'll try it for phase 2 unless you are willing to make a go of it? Join the cause!

I like these made for a Lotus Europa:


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post Aug 7 2005, 11:09 PM
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Hey Felix,

I haven't heard from you in a while so you MUST be working on your baby... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

I hate to see this topic get pushed under the whatever ...

So I was surfing and I see the 928 Spyder and noted the headlights. They I thought of you.

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I wonder what they use for the lenses.

Have you come up with a solution for your lenses?

Full pics HERE

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post Aug 8 2005, 12:49 AM
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Roger,

Actually had vacation time with the family and had to clean/organize my garage/workshop so I could find tools and parts. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

I spent a little time on the lights today. I think I have the mounting worked out coming off the existing "U" mount. Side to side will be more of a bend" adjustment but there shouldn't be much left to right (yaw).

I got Bruce's filled lense and put them under a halogen light. It's heavy and the now convex lense didn't quite survive the shipping. I can't fit it because I have the Hella positioned "into" the concave part of the original lense. It's a test piece anyway and was planned to be sacrificed. If it works I have a new clear lense to fill. I notice all imperfections show so I think the lense will have to be crystal clear with no raised lettering or features. Here's an example of one from a track car where the owner had a communication signal bulb mounted in one of them. I forget if the lense is flat.

I will first mold a nice bezel and a lense cover later. That will assure they have good Hella optics. The Hellas are sealed and weatherproof already. There are alot of cars where people would put the covers on for looks (Alfa Duettos, 240Z's, Camaros)


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post Aug 8 2005, 12:53 AM
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I was wondering if it had arrived and if it worked......
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post Aug 8 2005, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (rogergrubb @ Aug 7 2005, 09:09 PM)
So I was surfing and I see the 928 Spyder and noted the headlights. They I thought of you.

I think Rick Ollah (alien) worked on this car...
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post Aug 8 2005, 02:17 AM
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Felix... great stuff!!!

Im thinking the same lines for my car...

Would be great for production....
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post Sep 14 2005, 06:30 PM
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How's this coming?
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post Sep 14 2005, 06:48 PM
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I haven't tested Bruce's filled lense sample for heat yet because I was told all clear resin cast parts will "yellow" from UV. This would affect clarity unless they were replaced regularly but then even my Mercedes inj. molded headlight surrounds yellow over time. To prove this I need to provide Bruce with a clear lense for clear UV stable resin. This may work fine for for my purposes as a "show" car but should be sorted for production.

A prototype shop gave me some these lense options:
-injection mold = $$$$$$$ (not hundreds)
-CNC block of clear plastic = $$$$$
-vacuum mold a few sets from a plastic sheet then machine mount = $$
-they will estimate further once they get a sample lense

Finally got a fender to test mount the assembly, thanks Mark and Jon... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)
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post Sep 14 2005, 08:45 PM
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how hard to make a glass lens???? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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Keep us posted.

Im deciding on my car. (fg wont hold that big module but somthing could be welded from the side to hold it...)

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post Sep 14 2005, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Sep 14 2005, 06:45 PM)
how hard to make a glass lens???? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

More heat, higher temp molds and fixtures, material more difficult to machine, more brittle than plastic...

although maybe a glass blower... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Sep 14 2005, 06:45 PM)
how hard to make a glass lens????  :confused:

More heat, higher temp molds and fixtures, material more difficult to machine, more brittle than plastic...

although maybe a glass blower... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

cant you sand cast it????

or pour it into a large mold...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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post Sep 14 2005, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Sep 14 2005, 06:45 PM)
Keep us posted.

Im deciding on my car. (fg wont hold that big module but somthing could be welded from the side to hold it...)

Andrwe

It already has a U bracket, all you'd need is an L bracket on the body to mount it...

These are the fog versions that I'll mount in the bumper. Slightly different body and lense but the brackets are the same...


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post Sep 14 2005, 09:03 PM
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All the new cars have plastic covers over the HID lights. What are they using? Is the problem with material or proximity to the light source?

If the cover was a flat piece, it would be super easy and inexpensive to replace. I guess the problem with that is it wouldn't match the contour of the factory lens. So this begs the question....... who needs the factory contour, and who is OK with the CSOB flat piece that might need replacing if it yellows?

Just throwin' stuff out there.

Thanks Felix for working on this!!
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post Sep 14 2005, 09:15 PM
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Like the single piece windows, any chance of finding an existing "close enough" and cutting it down for this purpose? I'm thinking Celica GT-S or similar here.

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post Sep 14 2005, 09:28 PM
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Hey Jon, we think alike... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

I had the same thought of cutting down Celica assemblies but they are still quite larger ~4" for the signal pod. Plus the profile didn't match.

Just like the side glass, I stared at alot of car's headlights in parking lots (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

I liked the stacked lights on Caddy SRX but they were also too large.


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