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> HID headlights in the pods for Neo914, Pop-up headlights are not in the plans..
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post Jul 21 2005, 01:26 AM
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Maybe Saturn coupes may have been the last to get the word... <!-- emo&:screwy: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)<!-- endemo -->

As I have said before, the "signal" light pods are a unique characteristic of the 914 design. Making them house headlights will give them a higher purpose than signaling and join the modern "smaller" lighting trend. This and using the existing headlight space where the radiators will mount are why I chose this location. Legal? We'll see if they figure it out... <!-- emo&:lol: -->(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)<!-- endemo -->

the "rise and fall" of pop-up headlights:


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The material that the sample is made of is suppost to be UV stable. That's why I wanted you to test it with the lamps your using. To see how it reacts to the possible heat/UV created by the lamps.

If it works I can move ahead with making a outside stock mold and then making a inside out of plaster/clay. Then carving the plaster/clay smooth. Then having it covered with ceramics.
This will give the clasic outside look with a clear inside (no flutes/lines) and be as thin as the stock lens.

The other option I thought of is with a glass blower. There is a high temp silicone that is used in metal casting. Make a outside mold out of it and then the inside part as described above. Then have a glass blower insert almost molten glass into the silicone part and stamp the glass with the ceramic portion. If this works this would give a stock clear glass lens without the flutes and lines. And a way to make replacement glass fog light lens....

The problems with this is how the ceramic & the silicone would react to the high temps of the molten glass. Also there is the problem of making the creamic insert.

As to sand casting....every imperfection in either the original or the sand will show up in the product. There is also the problem with molten glass being poured into wet sand (even slightly damp, which the sand has to be to hold it's shape) of the steam which is produced distorting the product making it unuseable. Not to mention how to make the inside smooth enough to be useable.

I've done sand casting...when metal is poured into it there are imprefections which are polished out later. One place I know of that uses cast metal pieces in their products receives them with lots of extra metal on them and then they are thrown into a "rock polisher" the size of a small car for several days to make the smooth enough to be used.

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The problem with these lenses are that they are a one off...if you went to a commercial plastic lens manufacture and told them you wanted 100,000 pairs they would prob eat most of the mold development costs (or hide it in the lens costs).

Anyone want 199,998 lenses? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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neo914-6   HID headlights in the pods for Neo914   Jul 21 2005, 01:26 AM
neo914-6   Nip and Tuck...   Jul 21 2005, 01:26 AM
neo914-6   Voila! Don't worry, they are weather seale...   Jul 21 2005, 01:30 AM
Rand   Cool. I've been planning on trying to fit proj...   Jul 21 2005, 01:40 AM
sj914   I thought you couldn't cover your headlights w...   Jul 21 2005, 01:53 AM
fiid   Dude - that kicks ass. Keep the picss coming. Wha...   Jul 21 2005, 01:59 AM
Dr. Roger   Now THAT really does rock. =-) Donor vechicle is?...   Jul 21 2005, 02:05 AM
neo914-6     Jul 21 2005, 02:10 AM
dakotaewing   ...   Jul 21 2005, 06:20 AM
SGB   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jul 21 2005, 06:44 AM
airsix     Jul 21 2005, 10:19 AM
fiid   I was thinking of doing this... I had an idea to s...   Jul 21 2005, 10:26 AM
tat2dphreak   way cool! like the 914 drawings motortrend d...   Jul 21 2005, 10:30 AM
bondo   Sweet! Once the design is done I bet you could...   Jul 21 2005, 10:30 AM
MikeP   I know a guy locally with a plastic vaccuum mold. ...   Jul 21 2005, 11:36 AM
Rand   What are you planning on doing for front turn sign...   Jul 21 2005, 12:09 PM
nocones   Ahh... Add me to the list of foks planning that s...   Jul 21 2005, 12:39 PM
neo914-6   Mike, That sounds great, I considered forming new...   Jul 21 2005, 12:51 PM
MikeP   I was thinking saw off the seal and use the new va...   Jul 21 2005, 12:56 PM
ClayPerrine   I hate to be a wet blanket.. but how are you going...   Jul 21 2005, 12:59 PM
airsix   http:/...   Jul 21 2005, 04:47 PM
neo914-6   ...   Jul 22 2005, 05:50 AM
neo914-6     Jul 22 2005, 09:25 AM
neo914-6   http://www.9...   Jul 28 2005, 11:11 PM
Mueller   interesting http://www.914world.com...   Jul 29 2005, 12:03 AM
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neo914-6   http://www...   Jul 31 2005, 12:58 AM
sj914   ...   Jul 31 2005, 02:57 AM
neo914-6   ...   Jul 31 2005, 02:59 AM
neo914-6     Jul 31 2005, 03:10 AM
redshift   ...   Jul 31 2005, 04:57 AM
neo914-6   ...   Jul 31 2005, 11:52 AM
Andyrew   Hey... What are you going to use for side mirror...   Jul 31 2005, 12:19 PM
airsix   <...   Jul 31 2005, 12:34 PM
neo914-6     Jul 31 2005, 01:08 PM
Dr. Roger   Hey Felix, I haven't heard from you in a whil...   Aug 7 2005, 11:09 PM
neo914-6   Roger, Actually had vacation time with the family...   Aug 8 2005, 12:49 AM
GWN7   I was wondering if it had arrived and if it worked...   Aug 8 2005, 12:53 AM
neo914-6   ...   Sep 14 2005, 08:50 PM
neo914-6   <...   Sep 14 2005, 08:53 PM
Rand   All the new cars have plastic covers over the HID ...   Sep 14 2005, 09:03 PM
jonwatts   Like the single piece windows, any chance of findi...   Sep 14 2005, 09:15 PM
neo914-6   Hey Jon, we think alike... htt...   Sep 14 2005, 09:28 PM
neo914-6     Sep 14 2005, 09:44 PM
jonwatts   ...   Sep 14 2005, 09:51 PM
GWN7   The material that the sample is made of is suppost...   Sep 14 2005, 09:52 PM
neo914-6   ...   Sep 14 2005, 10:56 PM
neo914-6     Sep 14 2005, 11:00 PM
GWN7   Hook it up to the battery with it assembled....put...   Sep 14 2005, 11:11 PM
jonwatts   ...   Sep 14 2005, 11:22 PM
effutuo101   What if you raked the angle of the turn signal bac...   Sep 14 2005, 11:23 PM
Graphikhaus   Polycarbonate, aka "Lexan" is probably the easiest...   Sep 14 2005, 11:30 PM
TonyAKAVW   How about injection molding? Hard to say how many...   Sep 14 2005, 11:49 PM
neo914-6   ...   Sep 15 2005, 12:07 AM
Dr. Roger   I think Big Doug has a heck of a good idea.... ...   Sep 15 2005, 12:08 AM
neo914-6     Sep 15 2005, 12:27 AM
jonwatts   ...   Sep 15 2005, 12:27 AM
TonyAKAVW     Sep 15 2005, 12:30 AM
neo914-6   ...   Sep 15 2005, 01:04 AM
Andyrew   I dont think so 944turbo.... but yet, I dont know...   Sep 15 2005, 01:12 AM
jonwatts   Unger   Sep 15 2005, 01:14 AM
neo914-6   ...   Sep 15 2005, 04:03 AM
neo914-6   Doug, That was very creative thinking but as I vi...   Sep 15 2005, 10:03 AM
cbenitah   Just curious if anyone has tried to do this??   Sep 15 2005, 09:22 PM
Aaron Cox   ...   Sep 15 2005, 09:24 PM
bondo   What about glass lenses? They'd be clear and h...   Sep 15 2005, 09:27 PM
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