914 Electric Conversion, 914 electric conversion Options

[AmblerEV]

Ambler EV is going to officially unveil our full 914 electric conversion at our grand opening June 5, 207 & 211 South Main Street, Ambler PA. For those of you in the Philadelphia area, stop by and see the future. For those of you outside the Philadelphia area, follow our page on Facebook to see more teasers as the day get closer www.facebook.com/Amblerev. For those of you attempting this yourself, I am happy to talk end specs but questions about components used or design will not be answered (EV West is your source for that). If you are interested in buying a full electric 914 (or converting your 914 roller) so that it can handle level 2 charging, has a range over 200 miles, and will no longer contain any vacuum or 40 year old EFI electronics, stop by or email me at sam@amblerev.com.

[Spoke]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

[Steve]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

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I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

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I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

[Big Len]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

[Big Len]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

I wasn't really asking about the tecnicalities of the conversion. I was more curious of would you do it on such a rare car. For me, it's more of a morality question.
I find your answer repugnant and I wish you'd stay away from the cars we love.

[914e]

They have a video on Youtube from a year ago.

They describe details of the 914 conversion:

Converting a classic 914 porsche
we are going for 60-70mph top speed, 200 miles of range , and to keep as much as possible stock incase we want to convert it back!
we are using an ME1003 motor alltrax 72500 controller , 44kw of chevy Bolt batteries an emus BMS and all stock gauges! AMBLER EV and DIYGUY

That is a 15 HP motor, 26 hp short term. Talk about underpowered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I'm not against electric conversions, but until it supports a 200 mile range without touching the trunks and has the power of a 3.2 six, then it makes no sense to me. Otherwise, I would rather buy a Tesla model 3.

That would be doable
Using napkin CAD
Peak Torque: 280 Lb Ft Peak
Peak Power: 210 HP Peak
Max RPM: 10,000
About 260 miles range
Over 300 mile range in the city (which is about useless)
Weight would be within about 100 pounds of a stock 6, most of the batteries in the engine bay the rest in place of the gas tank to keep the weight balance close.

The problem would be the cost of about 40K if you did it yourself.

I have a question - if you had a friend who wanted to electrify his Ferrari Dino, what advice would you give him and why?

It is hard to find many good pictures of the Dino chassis. Since the engine and transaxle are likely to be pretty rare and the transaxle seems to be part of the sump.
I would look to building a cradle to pick up the the existing mounting points and mount a small Tesla motor and gearbox. Have custom half-shafts made. Find which batteries will fit best in the remaining engine bay space, and in the tank space.

EV west and Electric GT converted a 308 that had burned in an engine fire. That would be a good place to start.

Electric Classic Cars in England also did a 308, I have not seen a Dino converted. Defiantly not as easy as a 911 or a Bug where you switch back and forth between electric and gas in an afternoon. A 914 is little harder since the battery boxes are exposed to the elements and the gas tank is a pain.

I wasn't really asking about the tecnicalities of the conversion. I was more curious of would you do it on such a rare car. For me, it's more of a morality question.
I find your answer repugnant and I wish you'd stay away from the cars we love.

If you wanted to preserve the rare engine, but still enjoy driving the car why would you not? The rarer the engine the more likely I would convert it, I don't see a reason to consume the last of some rare parts, just to drive the car a few times month.

If the car does not have an engine anymore would you rather just scrap it? Mine hasn't had an engine for decades. The burned 308 kept a handful of other 308's drivable and itself back on the road.

How is it different than installing a six? far less modifications. For many classic car conversions the modifications to body, chassis, interior, and wiring are exactly zero, for many that is the point.

[Chris914n6]

If you wanted to preserve the rare engine, but still enjoy driving the car why would you not? The rarer the engine the more likely I would convert it, I don't see a reason to consume the last of some rare parts, just to drive the car a few times month.

If the car does not have an engine anymore would you rather just scrap it? Mine hasn't had an engine for decades. The burned 308 kept a handful of other 308's drivable and itself back on the road.

How is it different than installing a six? far less modifications. For many classic car conversions the modifications to body, chassis, interior, and wiring are exactly zero, for many that is the point.

What's the point of owning a classic Ferrari if you are going to take away the best parts?

You buy a sports car for the sounds and the twistys, electric kills both pleasures.

If you want the benefits of an EV then buy a car that was engineered to be an EV.

If you are not driving the EV everyday racking up the miles then a conversion is a huge waste of money.