 914 V8 or Pantera Detomaso, WHich would your prefer |
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| Jaiden |
 Jul 22 2005, 10:14 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Stroudsburg PA Member No.: 3,443  |
Guys,
I found an unrestored 1974 Pantera Detomaso GTS that one of my fiance's bridesmaids has stashed away in the family Garage. The Car does not currently run (stored for 14 years) and I could probably get it (if I can gather the money) for a VERY good price. Which would you guys go for the Pantera or a 914 V8? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jul 22 2005, 10:16 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
pantera.....
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| VegasRacer |
Jul 22 2005, 10:18 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,507 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None 
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easy question - PANTERA
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| tat2dphreak |
Jul 22 2005, 10:22 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Pantera! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) one of my dream cars! pantera will give a better ROI too... |
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| dakotaewing |
Jul 22 2005, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Pantera - No doubt about it -
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| spare time toys |
Jul 22 2005, 10:23 AM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You would go through life like this (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) I could of had a Pantera (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) I could of had a Pantera. The worst it could be is a great swap into a 914 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) Hold on dont Panteras have RUST issues (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/lol2.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)
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| Joe Bob |
Jul 22 2005, 10:24 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
You have to ask???? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif)
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| ArtechnikA |
Jul 22 2005, 10:26 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
the stuff of sci-fi movies for years.
Godzilla va Mechzilla Rodan vs King Kong T. Rex vs allodaurus you can make a 914-V8 any time; Panteras are where you find them. they are not practical. they are horribly expensive to operate. you might be able to slip an engine swap past your insurance agent or state inspection types, but there's no hiding a Pantera. Pantera all the way... |
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| TimT |
Jul 22 2005, 10:28 AM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Pantera
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| bondo |
Jul 22 2005, 10:31 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Both! (Duh!) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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| jimkelly |
Jul 22 2005, 10:31 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
A Pantera of course - put a 1.7L and tailshifter in - that would be icing on the cake (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| TravisNeff |
Jul 22 2005, 10:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region
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P P P P P Panterrra
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| Jaiden |
Jul 22 2005, 10:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Stroudsburg PA Member No.: 3,443 |
Man you guys are quick!
Yeah I pretty much thought it would go that way. a good 914 v8 can be had for $5000-$8000, but the panteras are going in the $30000's. Now this one inparticular "should be" ok with the under body rust. The story is that the mom and Dad boaught the car for the daugther as an investment to pay for her college. well she already graduated but is willing to let it go since she wants to use the money towards a house. I have to start playing the numbers to see if I can come up with the money. I think the car is worth $25000+. I only got a few minutes to take a look and it was buried in the garage and under a blanket but the body looked straight and the interior looked good too. The car is all original and unmolested. The restored price for a 74 GTS is in the mid 40's so I think it might be worth. Think!! Hell I know it will be worth it!!!!! Now I have to figure out how to pay for the wedding and the car Hmmmm |
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| andys |
Jul 22 2005, 10:44 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None
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Before deciding to build a 914 V8, I looked real hard at considering a Pantera. I was surprised at the range of prices and condition. Most that were priced too high, were being offered by Pantera enthusiasts. Like a 914, if you're not in a hurry and you keep a keen eye, you may well come up with a decent car like the one you describe....sitting somewhere in a garage (like my 914 was). Also like the 914, take some time to read up on and educate yourself of what to look for, what to avoid, and what's the value of a potential car. I unfortunately found that what I really liked were the later Euro only cars. They made some subtle modernizing changes that took the car away from that '70's look quite nicely.
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 22 2005, 10:49 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
RUST! Look for it in the shock towers, as I recall, and the rear floor area. No rust? Buy it! The Cap'n
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| tod914 |
Jul 22 2005, 11:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
No brainer... Pantera. The engine rebuild on that 8 is probally cheaper than a 4 banger rebuild (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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| dmenche914 |
Jul 22 2005, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 27-February 03 From: California Member No.: 366 |
I like the Pantera. Other car is the early Lotus Esprit (remember James Bond driving out from the sea in one?)
Neat mid engined car, no V-8 monster (that could be changed!!!!) but a neat looking car, with good potential. |
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| neo914-6 |
Jul 22 2005, 11:50 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Use the Pantera ZF in a V8 914 and dump the rest, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
I let go a '64 Maserati Sebring because the rust was bad enough to get $20k+ quotes from restoration shops. The Italian FI engine would cost another $15k to rebuild but since the Pantera has a Ford that is not as big an issue. You should know that even a good rebuilt performance V8 engine is at least $5k and can soar to over $10k easily. Rebuilt Pantera ZF's can be done for $9k. Be prepared to pay whatever the seller wants for those rare body parts if you can find them. In the end, if this car needs alot of restoration, it would probably cost less to find a good runner or one already restored. For resale value, if you get a great deal out of it, and if it doesn't need all the costs above, the Pantera is the best choice... |
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| Ferg |
Jul 22 2005, 11:52 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None
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Ahhh, my fantasy car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif)
if you decide to pass, give me a pm will you (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif). lot's of nice one's for sale here. http://www.pim.net/pim1.html Ferg |
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