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| TimT |
 Jul 22 2005, 07:38 PM
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retired  Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313  |
Well I posted previously about using water based colors when painting my cars..
the color coat lays down nicely I havent figured out how to lay down clear yet... then again its been in the mid 90's here seems like the clear sets before it flows out Im a total nOOB at painting... here are two of my practice pieces Attached image(s) 
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| TimT |
Jul 22 2005, 07:39 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
wheel fan
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| ChrisReale |
Jul 22 2005, 07:42 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Make sure you use some anti-seaze on those puppies when you attach them to your car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Looks nice (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)
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| TimT |
Jul 22 2005, 07:49 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Heh, even my "I cant believe they dissect things so intensely" thread here got a "pelican" type response
Im using a HVLP gun with Dupont HC 7600 How wet should this stuff lay down? it great cleaning the color coats with soap and water..... the only nasty shit is when I shoot the clear Any hints mis compadres? |
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| Red-Beard |
Jul 22 2005, 09:18 PM
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"Ya canna change the laws of Physics" Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,124 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 288 Region Association: None  |
Ship it to Los Panchos?
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| Aaron Cox |
Jul 22 2005, 09:51 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
nice wheel fans....
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| 914GT |
Jul 22 2005, 10:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Apply the clear early in the day before it gets too hot. Use a high temp activator. Lay a medium wet coat down first, then give it plenty of time to flash before laying down a second wet coat. You can watch the clear as hits the surface and see how it's flowing out. Don't be tempted to go back over it right away, it'll just cause runs or sags.
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| TimT |
Jul 23 2005, 01:25 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
What about air pressure?
should I decrease air, and increase paint so it lays down better? the tech info from dupont recommends 25-35 psi at the gun, so I set the pressure at 30psi... I guess I need more practice.. Ill shoot the other wheel fans today... they get covered in brake dust after one lap anyhoo (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| TimT |
Jul 23 2005, 01:28 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Oh , I was just reading the info on DuPonts site.. they recommend 6-8psi at the gun cap? I guess I need much less than 30 psi at the gun..
is it just a judgment when the pressure is correct? Info |
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| redshift |
Jul 23 2005, 01:29 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Dropping the pressure a few #s will flow a little smoother, up to a point, then you'll get spatter..
Decrease it a couple, and spray a squirt, and again, and again.. just a hair each time, and find the sweet spot. Yes, judgement... if DuP says 7-8lbs, and you have been shooting at 30, split the difference, to like 20, and then do as I said above.. you'll find the sweet spot. M |
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| 914GT |
Jul 23 2005, 02:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You are setting the pressure with the trigger pulled on the gun aren't you? If not your gun pressure will be set way too low and you'll get lots of orange peel. |
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| TimT |
Jul 23 2005, 06:58 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Learning new things every day
dropped the pressure at the gun... color lays down even more nicely..and the clear just flows and set up... I love when thing work out Ill post pics when its all painted... My friends dont like that blue/ orange combo I have going... Im trying to give a nod to the Wyer/Gulf cars.... but not be a copycat LOL |
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| redshift |
Jul 23 2005, 08:57 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
It's a loud looking combo, I like it... HURRY! Take your time.
M |
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| TimT |
Jul 24 2005, 06:54 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
OK I officially SUCK!!! at spraying clear..
how can I fix this? just kncok it down by color sanding and shoot some more clear? any of you guys interested in coming to NY and shooting some clear for me? ill cook supply beer etc.. Attached image(s) 
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| TimT |
Jul 24 2005, 06:55 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
ack ack
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| 914GT |
Jul 24 2005, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Looks like fisheyes. Got a filter/trap on your line away from your compressor?
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| TimT |
Jul 24 2005, 07:05 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
Yes filter/water seperator at the compessor, and filter/water seperator/ regulator at the gun
this is frustrating because the paint lays down nicely.. I am having real trouble getting the hang of clear.. |
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| 914GT |
Jul 24 2005, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Did you heat dry the water out of the basecoat? Urethane clear will not tolerate any moisture. Otherwise maybe you just didn't spray the clear on heavy enough to flow out. You can wait at least 18-24 hours and sand it down flat then reclear it.
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| Korijo |
Jul 25 2005, 12:01 AM
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[]D o [] o []V[] o []D Group: Members Posts: 1,308 Joined: 16-July 03 From: North Bend, WA Member No.: 914 |
i'm paintin' my 914 the same colors (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) ! |
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| bmcwilli |
Jul 25 2005, 10:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 28-April 05 From: Chapel Hill NC Member No.: 3,998 |
can you re-post the link to the water based colors? I lost it.
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