1973 Black (041) 2.0L Apperance package car - will I be disowned if I put a /6 engine in it? |
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1973 Black (041) 2.0L Apperance package car - will I be disowned if I put a /6 engine in it? |
Tdskip |
Jun 17 2021, 09:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I have a "spare" 2.4L engine needing a home. I know, I know, my car and I can do what I want but I don't think this black/appearance package/2.0L combination was falling off tree's back in the day. Original engine is long gone, so it won't ever be numbers matching but I do have a 2.0L in the right engine series for it.
I have a '74 1.8 shell I could build up instead of this one is better off being close to how it was born. Thoughts? Thanks and I hope everyone is having a good week. |
DRPHIL914 |
Jun 18 2021, 06:04 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,764 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
if you had the original motor i’d say no, but a nice 2.4 you already have? i’d say yes. only modifications you are really making is welding the mount to the firewall. i’ve heard good things about Bob Seville’s NarroScapes (sp?) mount, but Mad Dog motorsport and Patrick Motorsport will all have their version for doing this. i guess the /6 tin has to be modified and side holes drilled for the stock oil tank for the /6. most say on a non-race car you don’t need a front oil cooler either. if i came along and could source a /6 2.4 or 2.7 let’s say, for same price as having to fix my /4, i’d store the 4 and put in the six. do what you want i think you will be glad you put in the six
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mepstein |
Jun 18 2021, 06:06 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Whatever makes you happy
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BillJ |
Jun 18 2021, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,093 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
If you have the patience/funds/desire to build another car go for it! If you are happy with the black car as it sits then you can customize the other car however you want. Plus you still get to drive a 914 while you build.
Agree without the original motor the value question is less relevant. |
Mark Henry |
Jun 18 2021, 09:13 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
A /6 conversion will be worth more than a non-matching numbers car.
But then a /6 conversion will be cost way more to build than a non-matching numbers car. |
bbrock |
Jun 18 2021, 09:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I say go for it so my car becomes more valuable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
Kidding aside, I'm not really seeing that numbers matching is much of a factor in 914 values, at least not yet. I could be wrong, but with the exception of those rare low mileage, nearly pristine survivors (which obviously will be numbers matching) or an LE, I agree with Mark. Do what floats your boat. |
Root_Werks |
Jun 18 2021, 09:48 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,312 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A /6 conversion will be worth more than a non-matching numbers car. But then a /6 conversion will be cost way more to build than a non-matching numbers car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) To do a six conversion correctly it's not going to be a money maker or even break even. As been said, whatever makes you happy. Either way sounds like a fun project. |
ClayPerrine |
Jun 18 2021, 09:48 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
It is your car. Do what makes you happy.
Clay |
Shivers |
Jun 18 2021, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,365 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
The dimples for the oil tank are already there. It's almost like Porsche designed the 914 to have a six...Oh wait... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Boy the sound alone would make it worth the effort. And you have the engine, that is a tough one.
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gereed75 |
Jun 18 2021, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,241 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
the 2.0 four is not numbers matching It will never be an "original survivor" one owner, blah blah blah car. That possibility is gone.
build the six |
PanelBilly |
Jun 18 2021, 11:19 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,799 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Put the 2.0 in it and drive it hard
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Cairo94507 |
Jun 18 2021, 11:34 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,723 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I don't think anyone has ever uttered the words "I wish I had not put that 6 in my 914..." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Tdskip |
Jun 18 2021, 11:40 AM
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First of all let me just say that I really really really appreciate the ability to post a topic like this and get peoples honest and experienced feedback. I consider myself very fortunate to be here as a member.
I think I’m going to juggle the build planning a bit to do this as a /6. Your thought above are kind of what I was thinking but I obviously I wanted to check out of respect for the car. That’s an a any incremental value gained or lost is secondary to my son’s enthusiasm and promise involvement in doing a build. Thanks again gentlemen. |
Shivers |
Jun 18 2021, 12:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,365 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
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mepstein |
Jun 18 2021, 12:06 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
First of all let me just say that I really really really appreciate the ability to post a topic like this and get peoples honest and experienced feedback. I consider myself very fortunate to be here as a member. I think I’m going to juggle the build planning a bit to do this as a /6. Your thought above are kind of what I was thinking but I obviously I wanted to check out of respect for the car. That’s an a any incremental value gained or lost is secondary to my son’s enthusiasm and promise involvement in doing a build. Thanks again gentlemen. “secondary to my son’s enthusiasm and promise involvement in doing a build” That’s the only thing that matters. People bring back rusty shells all the time. A six mount can be cut off and oil tank holes filled in an afternoon if the next possible owner couldn’t stand it. |
SKL1 |
Jun 18 2021, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
My son found a 2.4 we'll rebuild and since my '71 was my first car and will be in the family "forever" we will be converting it a 6 next year. As both my boys have told me over and over, I should have never sold our "real" '71 914-6 many years ago. It sounded reasonable at the time and it was replaced by a new 993 coupe...
So obviously I'd say GO FOR IT! |
Tdskip |
Jun 18 2021, 01:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,686 Joined: 1-December 17 From: soCal Member No.: 21,666 Region Association: None |
I will have my son introduce himself in the next month to so.
Thanks! |
Chris914n6 |
Jun 18 2021, 04:36 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,307 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Given the amount of work involved to swap I'd drive the 73 as is and build the 74 with the -6. The you will have 2 running 914s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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KELTY360 |
Jun 18 2021, 05:00 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,031 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I’d put a lot of weight on your personal color preference. If you really want a black six then go for it. If you prefer another color then keep the four in the black car and build the six in the other car with whatever color you want.
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BENBRO02 |
Jun 18 2021, 08:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: 6-March 15 From: Nokesville, Virginia Member No.: 18,493 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If it had the original engine in it, I’d say don’t modify it but it doesn’t so I think a Brutus tribute would be cool.
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