Is it necessary?, 3M butyl primer |
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Is it necessary?, 3M butyl primer |
Speedo |
Sep 29 2021, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ready to install new glass on fresh paint. 3M butyl primer is not allowed for sale in CO, and I can't find a similar substitute. I already have the butyl tape, so I don't want to go the Urethane adhesive route. As the area where the butyl will lay is clean enough to eat off of it...am I ok to just install the butyl by itself?
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Shivers |
Sep 29 2021, 08:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
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76-914 |
Sep 29 2021, 09:16 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Just be sure both surfaces are clean and free of oils and waxes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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914werke |
Sep 29 2021, 10:05 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,052 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
no
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Speedo |
Sep 29 2021, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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930cabman |
Sep 29 2021, 03:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,037 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Clean, dry and sound are all that's required. Did you source 5/16" round?
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914_teener |
Sep 29 2021, 03:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,197 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Ready to install new glass on fresh paint. 3M butyl primer is not allowed for sale in CO, and I can't find a similar substitute. I already have the butyl tape, so I don't want to go the Urethane adhesive route. As the area where the butyl will lay is clean enough to eat off of it...am I ok to just install the butyl by itself? I use acetone which they still sell in California BTW at Home Depot. Your hands itself carry a fair amount of grease and oils. I know it's not aerospace but why chance a leak? That'd be my .02. Oh....wear gloves when using acetone...it's bad stuff but cleans like a mother. |
NARP74 |
Sep 29 2021, 04:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,061 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ian just did a video on this. Perhaps you could get someone to purchase the primer for you and send it to you. Calirado...
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maf914 |
Sep 29 2021, 05:13 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Not a windshield, but I reset my rear window using butyl tape. I cleaned the glass and body work and wiped every thing down with mineral spirits multiple times. Put the tape in, put the glass in, pressed it in. That was about 20 years ago and it is still in place.
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Speedo |
Sep 29 2021, 06:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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bbrock |
Sep 29 2021, 08:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Clean, dry and sound are all that's required. Did you source 5/16" round? Yes 914Rubber provided. I have acetone and gloves...I'm good to go. Double check the size. The tape I got from 914Rubber was 3/8". You really want 5/16" It does make a difference. |
IronHillRestorations |
Sep 30 2021, 06:36 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I wouldn’t put a windshield in without it
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Montreal914 |
Sep 30 2021, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,545 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
Acetone can leave a residue. Maybe clean with alcohol after the acetone? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Sep 30 2021, 11:14 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,659 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
No not required. It does however allow for better adhesion to the substructure. The frit was actually designed to be applied to glass for some glazing applications. It etches the glass and allows the adhesive to grab it.
I haven't put this up for awhile but it may be helpful to make the setting blocks as shown. Paint degreaser works well too Attached image(s) |
rbzymek |
Sep 30 2021, 01:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 5-April 19 From: Northville, MI Member No.: 23,013 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
@shivers
You can use my can of CRL if you provide $5 for shipping. The only requirement is that you offer it to someone else when you are done. Let's see how many applications are in a can. |
Shivers |
Sep 30 2021, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 2,369 Joined: 19-October 20 From: La Quinta, CA Member No.: 24,781 Region Association: Southern California |
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Mikey914 |
Sep 30 2021, 06:29 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,659 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yep you can't buy it anymore.
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IronHillRestorations |
Oct 1 2021, 07:10 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,716 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
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Speedo |
Oct 1 2021, 09:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 7-November 06 From: Boulder Member No.: 7,170 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
@shivers You can use my can of CRL if you provide $5 for shipping. The only requirement is that you offer it to someone else when you are done. Let's see how many applications are in a can. Thanks for the offer...PM sent! Who is next in line? |
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