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Floors without rotisserie?, Who has done it? |
nivekdodge |
Oct 2 2021, 09:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Has anyone tried putting floors in without using rotisserie and just doing it from underneath? I tried searching and haven’t been able to find the right combination of words
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mepstein |
Oct 2 2021, 10:05 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,262 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ben can probably give you some tips. @MB911
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tygaboy |
Oct 2 2021, 10:31 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,290 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
I did a front half floor with the car on ramps and jack stands. Some of the time, it was actually on the ground... Starts on post #50 here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...years&st=40 Is there something specific you'd like to know? |
Superhawk996 |
Oct 2 2021, 11:09 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,804 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
It’s doable. See my build link in signature. pages 21-23.
All work done on build cart without rotisserie. Caveat is that all welding is TIG so overhead welding is possible without constant shower of sparks that would occur with MIG. I’ve done overhead MIG in past. Still doable - just need more care and planning on body position and good gear for protection. Leather jacket, face shielded, do rag to keep sparks off scalp, etc. |
burton73 |
Oct 2 2021, 11:28 AM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,517 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
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mlindner |
Oct 2 2021, 11:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Literati914 |
Oct 2 2021, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,461 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
don't want to be the voice of negativity, but I broke down and built my rotisserie because I was seeing that doing the floors wasn't working for me. The hot welding slag dropping down on me was highly unpleasant even with the protective clothing (plus it was summer and humid too)... but then trying to grind certain areas while laying on my back was miserable and dangerous.
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nivekdodge |
Oct 2 2021, 01:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Trying to get a good weld while avoiding the sparks would be difficult. I may start to look for two engine stands
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Costa05 |
Oct 2 2021, 01:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 27-October 16 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 20,535 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Did my front half on jack stands. Mig with gas plus clean metal was not bad for Rosett welds from below. The fitment of the new floor panel especially around the front wheel wells was most of the challenging work. It will not match up as tight as you will need it to so lots of bending, shaping, to close up gaps. Made a rolling dolly that I balanced floor panel on that was about 1/2" short of the elevation of the floor. Roll it under the car and cleco it in with four clecos at the corners. Makes it a lot easier getting fitment worked out.
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bkrantz |
Oct 2 2021, 09:17 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,756 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
How young are you? How "bold"? How tough, patient, persistent, flexible, pain-resistant?
I can imagine doing floors and other underside work without a rotisserie. But I can't imagine enjoying any of it. For me (old, not very flexible or tough), I really did enjoy all the work I did with the car easily flipped upside-down or on its side. |
seanpaulmc |
Oct 3 2021, 03:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 299 Joined: 6-December 16 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 20,649 Region Association: South East States |
Has anyone tried putting floors in without using rotisserie and just doing it from underneath? I tried searching and haven’t been able to find the right combination of words Check out Jared McGinness and his Irish Green 71 Resto thread. @jaredmcginness |
dlee6204 |
Oct 3 2021, 04:32 AM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
I did a rear floor pan on jack stands and although doable, I would never do it again. The hot lava spewing down was one thing but having the same attention to detail was near impossible and the quality of work was not where I wanted. I vowed to always use a rotisserie. The next car I did a set on, It only took me 2-3 hours extra time to get it on and off the rotisserie and in the end I probably gained that time back by ease of access. This car was mostly assembled except for interior and engine/trans.
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mate914 |
Oct 3 2021, 11:53 AM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 748 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
I did a rear floor pan 15 years ago on four jack stands. Most of the cutting is from the top. About half the welding is on top. Now there will be some time prepping and rust treatment laying on your back. The reward is worth it.
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nivekdodge |
Oct 3 2021, 01:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 250 Joined: 28-August 21 From: Pittsburgh Pa Member No.: 25,860 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Okay, convinced me. I’m looking for one now
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mgp4591 |
Oct 3 2021, 09:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,370 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Okay, convinced me. I’m looking for one now You could build a support framework that bolts on underneath and with some help, stand it on one side. It would probably cost less too... my rotisserie was only 1k delivered and I've been able to convert it to a 2 post lift with minimal expense. If you plan on using yours like this too, it's worth it to invest in one. |
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