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> With rising popularity, should 914s be kept stock?, Originality
unpolire
post Nov 24 2021, 02:48 PM
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For years now since owning my first 1971 914, I have seen heavy modifications such as rotary engines, turbocharger additions, V-8 conversions, and 914-6 engine conversions. Now, with rising values and losses due to wrecks and rust, how many unmodified 914s are left? Even the best Porsche tuners in the world have touched the stock 914 or 914-6 and tastefully upgraded them making them remarkable machines.

Is the time for modifications coming to a close and preservation becoming more of a priority? As a multi-marque car collector, I feel that original 914s are now the rarity. Or does the community feel that reversible modifications are OK now? I know that the originality forum of 914World is the definitive answer for all things original 914. But is that just for the small concours original community or is it migrating towards all 914 owners?
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post Nov 24 2021, 05:56 PM
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That ship has already sailed. Due to it's NARP status for years, modifications weren't considered blasphemous, or even questioned for that matter. Fine, it is what it is.

Going forward, owners will need to evaluate their car differently, depending on how far it's descended down the rabbit hole. Originality can't be 'reclaimed', especially with the paucity of restorable and OEM parts available. IMO, true survivors, sympathetic restorations and period correct cars will offer the greatest value for collectors entering the market. 100 point restorations will always be attractive to big dollar collectors, especially as interest in the 914 continues to rise.

For my own part, I've owned my '74 2.0 since 2006. When purchased, it was 'substantially' stock, needing paint and other cosmetic touches. I left it that way for a few years until a small accident squashed the front fender leading to a makeover I'd been planning for years. Front and rear bumpers were backdated to '72 to delete the bumpetr tits, sail panel vinyl was deleted and trim holes welded shut, DOT warts were removed. The car was fully repainted in it's 'correct' color, Marathon Blue; but the bumpers and sail panels were also painted that color. The goal was to replicate an old school look of the early 914s. Instead of black valances and rocker covers, they were painted a complimentary dark blue and the Mahle wheels were also painted that color with the ribs and lips left silver. If you're interested, here's a link to the makeover: Making lemonade
All this said, it still has it's correct D-jet, 2.0 engine (rebuilt with euro pistons by PO), side shift tranny (rebuilt), correct interior, incl. working backpad light, and the patina of a well driven car. I wouldn't call it stock, but modified would be a pretty strong word for the changes, I think. Bottom line is that it's my car and I did what I wanted but maintained the 'essence' of the 914 character.

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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Nov 24 2021, 03:56 PM) *

That ship has already sailed. Due to it's NARP status for years, modifications weren't considered blasphemous, or even questioned for that matter. Fine, it is what it is.

Going forward, owners will need to evaluate their car differently, depending on how far it's descended down the rabbit hole. Originality can't be 'reclaimed', especially with the paucity of restorable and OEM parts available. IMO, true survivors, sympathetic restorations and period correct cars will offer the greatest value for collectors entering the market. 100 point restorations will always be attractive to big dollar collectors, especially as interest in the 914 continues to rise.

For my own part, I've owned my '74 2.0 since 2006. When purchased, it was 'substantially' stock, needing paint and other cosmetic touches. I left it that way for a few years until a small accident squashed the front fender leading to a makeover I'd been planning for years. Front and rear bumpers were backdated to '72 to delete the bumpetr tits, sail panel vinyl was deleted and trim holes welded shut, DOT warts were removed. The car was fully repainted in it's 'correct' color, Marathon Blue; but the bumpers and sail panels were also painted that color. The goal was to replicate an old school look of the early 914s. Instead of black valances and rocker covers, they were painted a complimentary dark blue and the Mahle wheels were also painted that color with the ribs and lips left silver. If you're interested, here's a link to the makeover: Making lemonade
All this said, it still has it's correct D-jet, 2.0 engine (rebuilt with euro pistons by PO), side shift tranny (rebuilt), correct interior, incl. working backpad light, and the patina of a well driven car. I wouldn't call it stock, but modified would be a pretty strong word for the changes, I think. Bottom line is that it's my car and I did what I wanted but maintained the 'essence' of the 914 character.

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unpolire   With rising popularity, should 914s be kept stock?   Nov 24 2021, 02:48 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   of course unless they are dragged out of a field a...   Nov 24 2021, 03:06 PM
StarBear   My 74 1.8L is stock and original with only a few i...   Nov 24 2021, 03:16 PM
mlindner   Nope   Nov 24 2021, 03:36 PM
Wew   Not to hijack this thread, but could someone pleas...   Nov 24 2021, 03:47 PM
unpolire   Not to hijack this thread, but could someone plea...   Nov 24 2021, 05:48 PM
Shivers   When I got mine it was bone stock. Over the years ...   Nov 24 2021, 03:49 PM
914e   The nimble 914 wants to run free in its native hab...   Nov 24 2021, 03:56 PM
emerygt350   The nimble 914 wants to run free in its native ha...   Nov 24 2021, 04:16 PM
Root_Werks   Like most things, it depends.: If I bought a nice...   Nov 24 2021, 04:24 PM
Steve   Like most things, it depends.: If I bought a nic...   Nov 24 2021, 04:54 PM
StarBear   Like most things, it depends.: If I bought a ni...   Nov 24 2021, 05:01 PM
Van B   Originality is a farce in a time where more and mo...   Nov 24 2021, 04:33 PM
jagalyn   With the 914, there is room for everyone. That’s...   Nov 24 2021, 05:44 PM
KELTY360   That ship has already sailed. Due to it's NARP...   Nov 24 2021, 05:56 PM
Wew   That ship has already sailed. Due to it's NAR...   Nov 24 2021, 06:38 PM
Shivers   @KELTY360 Sure came out nice. My 72' they ha...   Nov 24 2021, 06:10 PM
SKL1   Looks nice Kelty. Had my early '71 since new ...   Nov 24 2021, 06:29 PM
930cabman   Depends on your mood of the day, original cars hav...   Nov 24 2021, 06:32 PM
r_towle   Personally I can’t resist modifying any car.   Nov 24 2021, 07:02 PM
Beach914   I like seeing any 914 that has been has been safel...   Nov 24 2021, 07:02 PM
914_7T3   I think so!   Nov 24 2021, 07:59 PM
Wew   I think so! Holy smokes, Gorgeous!   Nov 24 2021, 10:01 PM
Jett   I think so! Holy smokes, Gorgeous...   Nov 25 2021, 09:50 AM
jagalyn   [quote name='Wew' post='2962350' date='Nov 24 202...   Nov 25 2021, 10:11 AM
windforfun   I think so! Me too. Happy Thanksgivin...   Nov 25 2021, 11:55 AM
SO.O.C914er   :agree: I can take a 914 in any configuration you ...   Nov 24 2021, 08:06 PM
bkrantz   My own very personal opinion: If I owned a low mi...   Nov 24 2021, 08:13 PM
Ansbacher   I think "stock" is a nebulous and unobta...   Nov 24 2021, 08:33 PM
KELTY360   I think "stock" is a nebulous and unobt...   Nov 24 2021, 08:50 PM
jagalyn   Not to be confrontational, but I think your defi...   Nov 24 2021, 09:10 PM
Ansbacher   Not to be confrontational, but I think your defini...   Nov 25 2021, 12:59 PM
Eric_Ciampa   Personally I welcome any *high quality* work or mo...   Nov 24 2021, 08:35 PM
wonkipop   i used to raise an eyebrow at merican love for sti...   Nov 24 2021, 10:07 PM
KELTY360   i used to raise an eyebrow at merican love for st...   Nov 24 2021, 10:35 PM
JeffBowlsby   At this point, ~50 years from being as originally ...   Nov 24 2021, 11:54 PM
rgalla9146   At this point, ~50 years from being as originally...   Nov 25 2021, 07:48 AM
Cornerlot   At this point, ~50 years from being as originally...   Nov 25 2021, 01:49 PM
mlindner   I love these cars, stock or modified. Happy Holida...   Nov 25 2021, 07:54 AM
FRUNKenstein   I love these cars, stock or modified. Happy Holid...   Nov 25 2021, 07:55 PM
mb911   I think ones that are close to stock current condi...   Nov 25 2021, 09:10 AM
Jett   We are fortunate to have four 914’s two (73 and ...   Nov 25 2021, 09:44 AM
GregAmy   Is the time for modifications coming to a close an...   Nov 25 2021, 10:26 AM
mepstein   If people complain to me about what I'm doing ...   Nov 25 2021, 10:42 AM
StarBear   If people complain to me about what I'm doing...   Nov 25 2021, 11:44 AM
914Next   If people complain to me about what I'm doing...   Nov 26 2021, 09:29 AM
mlindner   I'm with you GregAmy. I bought the last 993 Ca...   Nov 25 2021, 10:45 AM
rgalla9146   Variety is the spice of life.   Nov 25 2021, 11:19 AM
StarBear   :Qarl:   Nov 25 2021, 11:41 AM
tygaboy   Eesch, I hope not... :lol4:   Nov 25 2021, 12:07 PM
rgalla9146   Eesch, I hope not... :lol4: This shot is b...   Nov 25 2021, 12:19 PM
tygaboy   Eesch, I hope not... :lol4: This shot is ...   Nov 25 2021, 12:44 PM
windforfun   It's whatever floats your boat (as a friend of...   Nov 25 2021, 02:34 PM
davehg   First time I drove a big six conversion, I was hoo...   Nov 26 2021, 02:00 AM


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