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emerygt350
post Jan 30 2022, 12:08 PM
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Why yes, that is dry pavement.
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post Jan 30 2022, 12:20 PM
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Checks… I won’t be driving either Porsche until several rains have washed that all away…
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post Jan 30 2022, 12:23 PM
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EWWWWWWW Nasty white stuff covering the ground....


And I am not referring to the salt.

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post Jan 30 2022, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 30 2022, 01:23 PM) *

EWWWWWWW Nasty white stuff covering the ground....


And I am not referring to the salt.

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Yeah… I miss Houston more and more every year.
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post Jan 30 2022, 03:24 PM
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it looks purty when it first falls.

as i remember it turns to black slush within a day.
then freezes so you have to tip toe around.

been checking out news reports.
you east coasters copped a real dumping last week or so?
looked horrible.



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post Jan 30 2022, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 30 2022, 04:24 PM) *

it looks purty when it first falls.

as i remember it turns to black slush within a day.
then freezes so you have to tip toe around.

been checking out news reports.
you east coasters copped a real dumping last week or so?
looked horrible.

Just a smattering here inland a bit. Bitter cold and salty due to the ice. Keeping it indoors for the present.
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post Jan 30 2022, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(StarBear @ Jan 30 2022, 03:30 PM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 30 2022, 04:24 PM) *

it looks purty when it first falls.

as i remember it turns to black slush within a day.
then freezes so you have to tip toe around.

been checking out news reports.
you east coasters copped a real dumping last week or so?
looked horrible.

Just a smattering here inland a bit. Bitter cold and salty due to the ice. Keeping it indoors for the present.


you have just reminded me of ice storms.
used to get those in chicago.
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broken trees.
glad its you lot and not me.
its 7.30 am and a pleasant 22C.
heading for a top of 30.
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post Jan 30 2022, 04:38 PM
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For those of you that may not experience this... The white on the road,that is all salt. That is black asphalt on a perfectly dry day. No snow on the road.


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post Jan 30 2022, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Jan 30 2022, 05:38 PM) *

For those of you that may not experience this... The white on the road,that is all salt. That is black asphalt on a perfectly dry day. No snow on the road.


What does not deteriorate with exposure to salt???

Nothing, steel, our bodies, aluminum, ....

I trust you are not cruising on salty roads
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post Jan 30 2022, 07:02 PM
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Luckily the Porsche is trapped behind feet of snow, in the garage.
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post Jan 30 2022, 10:02 PM
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Careful! Even talking about salt near a 914 can make it rust overnight. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post Jan 31 2022, 02:32 AM
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dumb question from dumb australian.

but why the fuch do they still use salt.
its the 21st century.
isn't there something better out there?

it hit 35.5C today.
there was a lot of salt residue all over me.
sweating it out on the falcon ute down at the workshop.
i hope i am not making it rust again.

i did not approach within 40 feet of the 914.
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post Jan 31 2022, 05:24 AM
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QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Jan 30 2022, 01:08 PM) *

Why yes, that is dry pavement.
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Yep, that's the way it is around here also. You can't even see asphalt on my road.
It's way too much. It seems to get worse as the years go by.
They also brine the roads pre-storm. A mechanic friend of mine says he replaces brake lines much earlier in a cars lifetime than ever before.
The white clouds of "smoke" behind vehicles is disturbing.
Before front-wheel-drive and awd cars became popular we were driving rear wheel drive cars and we managed just fine and they didn't use anywhere near this much salt.
I can see salting steep hills, sharp corners and intersections but not tons of salt everywhere.
It seems as though there's an expectation or entitlement that motorists need to drive at full speed all all times.
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post Jan 31 2022, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 31 2022, 03:32 AM) *

dumb question from dumb australian.

but why the fuch do they still use salt.
its the 21st century.
isn't there something better out there?

it hit 35.5C today.
there was a lot of salt residue all over me.
sweating it out on the falcon ute down at the workshop.
i hope i am not making it rust again.

i did not approach within 40 feet of the 914.


Salt is probably cheap and if salting saves 1 life it's worth it. Not sure of you winters in Aussie, but here in the Northeast US it gets nasty
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post Jan 31 2022, 06:39 AM
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Wisconsin last week -23 deg in the morning.....But, this is the only salt my car will ever see or feel. 300lbs plus in the front trunk while installing engine and trans. Did not want it to fall off lift. Best, MarkAttached Image
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post Jan 31 2022, 08:46 AM
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PA has gone to using brine, which seems to be worse then salt when it comes to corrosion. But its cheaper then rock salt and in theory you get more even coverage.

But when I see the panic lines show up on the road for the first time, thats the end of the driving season until the spring rains wash all that crap off the roads.

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post Jan 31 2022, 09:00 AM
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That checks. The brine is designed to not wash away, which means more trouble for vehicles that drive on it.
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post Jan 31 2022, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Jan 31 2022, 10:00 AM) *

That checks. The brine is designed to not wash away, which means more trouble for vehicles that drive on it.


Around here, the road crews both brine the roads before a storm and then heavily salt the roads as they plow. After the roads are cleared, all evidence of the brining has disappeared, and masses of rock salt crystals are left behind for passing vehicles to crush into the blacktop.
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post Jan 31 2022, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(beech4rd @ Jan 31 2022, 10:10 AM) *

QUOTE(Van B @ Jan 31 2022, 10:00 AM) *

That checks. The brine is designed to not wash away, which means more trouble for vehicles that drive on it.


Around here, the road crews both brine the roads before a storm and then heavily salt the roads as they plow. After the roads are cleared, all evidence of the brining has disappeared, and masses of rock salt crystals are left behind for passing vehicles to crush into the blacktop.


They used to do that here. And I think some of the towns still do that. Mine seems to just brine and then plow during the storm. Others lay down the rock salt while plowing.

I just have not seen that the brine is effective in keeping the roads clear. The rock salt at least gives you tires somehting to grab into while driving. An the brine is way more harsh on vehicles.

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In my limited experience (since 2019), the rock salt is the only thing that can melt through snow and ice build up. But it also acts like a bead blaster on fenders and undercarriage.
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