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> Oil cooler in engine compartment, Anyone used a Mesa Plate cooler
DNHunt
post Jul 23 2003, 08:53 PM
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Just something I'm pondering. Probably won't work but thinkin about doesn't cost anything.

I'm considering an oil cooler for a new larger type IV (2270). I need to do rust repair in the hell hole this winter and I'm cosidering lowering the battery shelf and moving it toward the firewall. This could give me enough room to mount a cooler with a fan above the battery.

The positives 1)near cool air, 2)easy to plumb, 3)relatively inexpensive

The negatives 1)don't know if it will work 2)probably have to remove it to get to the battery PITA, 3)it will dump warm air on the battery.

Let me know what you think

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post Jul 23 2003, 08:59 PM
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Well, you could solve the battery problems by simply moving that to the front or rear trunk (which has already been done many times.)
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post Jul 23 2003, 09:05 PM
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Dumps hot air into the engine...very bad.

Done a lot of research...mesa with a fan..chuxters method (rocker vents), this and that...always come back to the front mounted cooler.

I think the front mount with a thermostat is the best method.
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post Jul 23 2003, 09:08 PM
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Yea, the front mounted cooler is the way to go.
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post Jul 23 2003, 09:15 PM
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Trunk.....better in front or rear is ....OK....
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post Jul 23 2003, 09:41 PM
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front mounted. everything else is half-ass ...

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post Jul 23 2003, 09:48 PM
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this brings me to an interesting question.... on a car such as the 930 or a boxter, could you utilize the side vents for an oil cooler or is all that air for the rear brakes and engine?

and, could you use a 911 fendermounted oil cooler?
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post Jul 23 2003, 11:25 PM
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Nothing works "great" unless it is front mounted and has air passing thru it.

The last thing you want to do is pull heat off of oil cooler and dump it into the engine compartment to add more heat to the cooling air for the engine.

We have several people in this area running 2 oil coolers under the engine lid with multiple fans and they cant figure out why the car still gets hot..


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post Jul 24 2003, 06:21 AM
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Thanks for all the advice.

I'm convinced, not in the engine compartment.

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post Jul 24 2003, 09:12 AM
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If you were set on putting a cooler back there I would put it in the wheel-well. No reason it has to source or exhaust air to/from the engine compartment. But, like they've said: front is better. Too bad it's costly and a hassle.
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post Jul 24 2003, 09:20 AM
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Oil collers need AIR FLOW!!!
Kinda simple, really.

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post Jul 24 2003, 09:21 AM
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I did install a Setrab Oil Cooler in the location where the A/C compressor used to be, beside the battery tray. The Oil Cooler was fitted with a SPAL cooling fan (pull configuration) discharging downwards. Also installed a thermostat on the oil line before the Oil Cooler and oil adapter sandwich plate.

The Oil Cooler helps when the car is at a standstill or idling. Does not help much when the car is racing fast at the freeway
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post Jul 24 2003, 12:02 PM
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I got this today,, the best place for this to be mounted in near the engine compartment correct?


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post Jul 24 2003, 12:14 PM
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I mount them up front... but most people are mounting them near the engine.

The whole idea is to have a bypass for the oil until it warms up. The oil coolers dont like to see 100lbs of oil pressure.

I cant prove to myself that one position is better than the other. Your still running the same amount of line to and from the cooler.


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post Jul 24 2003, 12:15 PM
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Efren.. do you have pics of this ??

And did you know Don Haney (914 guy who used to live in Claremont)

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post Jul 24 2003, 01:18 PM
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To run an oil cooler up front, you need?
Sandwich adapter between the filter, oil cooler, lines, thermostat.
How much more oil do you need to put in? (ball park number)

Is that thing posted in the pic above a splitter that lets the oil bypass the cooler until the thermometer warms up enough to open and let the oil into the cooler?
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post Jul 24 2003, 01:24 PM
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Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front.
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post Jul 24 2003, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Jul 24 2003, 12:24 PM)
Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front.

can you set the temperatur on the thermostat ?
or is it "fixed" ...

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post Jul 24 2003, 01:44 PM
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I don't think you can set the temp. for this to open but not sure, this one is designed to open at around 180 degrees.
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post Jul 24 2003, 01:55 PM
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"Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front"

I hope you are not running this thermostat on a 6 if its a 4 its OK but NOT for a 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif)
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