Oil cooler in engine compartment, Anyone used a Mesa Plate cooler |
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Oil cooler in engine compartment, Anyone used a Mesa Plate cooler |
DNHunt |
Jul 23 2003, 08:53 PM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Just something I'm pondering. Probably won't work but thinkin about doesn't cost anything.
I'm considering an oil cooler for a new larger type IV (2270). I need to do rust repair in the hell hole this winter and I'm cosidering lowering the battery shelf and moving it toward the firewall. This could give me enough room to mount a cooler with a fan above the battery. The positives 1)near cool air, 2)easy to plumb, 3)relatively inexpensive The negatives 1)don't know if it will work 2)probably have to remove it to get to the battery PITA, 3)it will dump warm air on the battery. Let me know what you think Dave |
Mockmaw |
Jul 23 2003, 08:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 163 Joined: 18-March 03 From: Berkeley/San Diego, CA Member No.: 438 |
Well, you could solve the battery problems by simply moving that to the front or rear trunk (which has already been done many times.)
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Mark Henry |
Jul 23 2003, 09:05 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Dumps hot air into the engine...very bad.
Done a lot of research...mesa with a fan..chuxters method (rocker vents), this and that...always come back to the front mounted cooler. I think the front mount with a thermostat is the best method. |
ChrisReale |
Jul 23 2003, 09:08 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Yea, the front mounted cooler is the way to go.
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Joe Bob |
Jul 23 2003, 09:15 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Trunk.....better in front or rear is ....OK....
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SirAndy |
Jul 23 2003, 09:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
front mounted. everything else is half-ass ...
Andy |
Aaron Cox |
Jul 23 2003, 09:48 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
this brings me to an interesting question.... on a car such as the 930 or a boxter, could you utilize the side vents for an oil cooler or is all that air for the rear brakes and engine?
and, could you use a 911 fendermounted oil cooler? |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 23 2003, 11:25 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Nothing works "great" unless it is front mounted and has air passing thru it.
The last thing you want to do is pull heat off of oil cooler and dump it into the engine compartment to add more heat to the cooling air for the engine. We have several people in this area running 2 oil coolers under the engine lid with multiple fans and they cant figure out why the car still gets hot.. B |
DNHunt |
Jul 24 2003, 06:21 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
Thanks for all the advice.
I'm convinced, not in the engine compartment. Dave |
airsix |
Jul 24 2003, 09:12 AM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
If you were set on putting a cooler back there I would put it in the wheel-well. No reason it has to source or exhaust air to/from the engine compartment. But, like they've said: front is better. Too bad it's costly and a hassle.
-Ben M. |
URY914 |
Jul 24 2003, 09:20 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,486 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Oil collers need AIR FLOW!!!
Kinda simple, really. Paul |
efrenv |
Jul 24 2003, 09:21 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 11-February 03 From: Claremont, California Member No.: 297 |
I did install a Setrab Oil Cooler in the location where the A/C compressor used to be, beside the battery tray. The Oil Cooler was fitted with a SPAL cooling fan (pull configuration) discharging downwards. Also installed a thermostat on the oil line before the Oil Cooler and oil adapter sandwich plate.
The Oil Cooler helps when the car is at a standstill or idling. Does not help much when the car is racing fast at the freeway |
StratPlayer |
Jul 24 2003, 12:02 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I got this today,, the best place for this to be mounted in near the engine compartment correct?
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Brad Roberts |
Jul 24 2003, 12:14 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I mount them up front... but most people are mounting them near the engine.
The whole idea is to have a bypass for the oil until it warms up. The oil coolers dont like to see 100lbs of oil pressure. I cant prove to myself that one position is better than the other. Your still running the same amount of line to and from the cooler. B |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 24 2003, 12:15 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Efren.. do you have pics of this ??
And did you know Don Haney (914 guy who used to live in Claremont) B |
ChrisReale |
Jul 24 2003, 01:18 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
To run an oil cooler up front, you need?
Sandwich adapter between the filter, oil cooler, lines, thermostat. How much more oil do you need to put in? (ball park number) Is that thing posted in the pic above a splitter that lets the oil bypass the cooler until the thermometer warms up enough to open and let the oil into the cooler? |
StratPlayer |
Jul 24 2003, 01:24 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front.
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SirAndy |
Jul 24 2003, 01:32 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Jul 24 2003, 12:24 PM) Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front. can you set the temperatur on the thermostat ? or is it "fixed" ... Andy |
StratPlayer |
Jul 24 2003, 01:44 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I don't think you can set the temp. for this to open but not sure, this one is designed to open at around 180 degrees.
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MJHanna |
Jul 24 2003, 01:55 PM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
"Its a oil cooler thermostat, basically does what you said above. My cooler is mounted in the front"
I hope you are not running this thermostat on a 6 if its a 4 its OK but NOT for a 6. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif) |
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