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post Mar 22 2022, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Mar 22 2022, 02:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Shivers @ Mar 22 2022, 11:07 AM) *

A six bumper would look great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Love to see more pictures

Jeez mate talking about "pissing on his parade",beautiful car and a very proud owner...who wouldn't be.


Yes it is a beautiful car, that is why I asked to see more pictures. It would have been cheaper in 72 to replace a dented chrome bumper than to fix it. If I'm wrong I apologize to him, but from all the real sixes that I've seen at car shows that old, had the style bumper I have. I had no idea if he was aware. "pissing on his parade" was not my intention.
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post Mar 22 2022, 05:12 PM
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What a beauty.
You know your car and have taken great care of it.
Anyone here would be proud to have it.
The issue with rear bumpers could be resolved by a poll based on VINs
and production dates.....early square bumper VS. curved late bumpers.
Let one of the 'experts' initate the poll and post the results.
Canary is one of my favorite colors.
Eye candy for sure.
I'm two years from my forty year milestone
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post Mar 23 2022, 01:44 AM
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When the bodies left the Karmen factory to go to Porsche how complete were they?. Would the bumpers have been fitted.

Would Porsche have received the face lift to the bumpers before VW.
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post Mar 23 2022, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE(Dobbsy @ Mar 23 2022, 01:44 AM) *

When the bodies left the Karmen factory to go to Porsche how complete were they?. Would the bumpers have been fitted.

Would Porsche have received the face lift to the bumpers before VW.


yep they had the bumpers on.
vw via karmann screwed porsche for every cent they could get.

but who cares about bumpers.
this man has the engine.

lovely car. eye candy of the best kind. thanks for posting it mr @914043 .
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post Mar 23 2022, 03:29 AM
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@wonkipop

I care because I also have THE ENGINE.

But we have gone off on a tangent to the original post. Could do with a definitive answer in the Originality and history forum.

Nice car I wish my car was as clean as this one.
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post Mar 23 2022, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(Dobbsy @ Mar 23 2022, 03:29 AM) *

@wonkipop

I care because I also have THE ENGINE.

But we have gone off on a tangent to the original post. Could do with a definitive answer in the Originality and history forum.

Nice car I wish my car was as clean as this one.


good on you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

i don't....... have a the engine, mine is an an.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

there are a couple of very very late 914s floating around on internet.
i think a guy in wisconsin owns them.
those cars would give you some leads on bumpers?
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post Mar 23 2022, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(Dobbsy @ Mar 22 2022, 04:53 AM) *

There is a difference in profile for the licence plate depression.

1970- 72 then changes for 72 up to the impact bumpers.

There is also a difference in the valance under the bumper.

Looks like you have a later bumper 72+ with an early valance 1970 to 72


What is the build date for your car.


The differences in bumpers are explained here.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=303280


over my limited time owing my car the literature i have stumbled on said earlier rear bumper with the sharp license plate depression is 70.

but literature shouldn't be trusted.
some other guys with cars with that engine might know better.
eg mr cairo.
perhaps there is some debate over that.


........bumpers stay pretty much the same from 71 to 74 in europe? and just get holes drilled in the rear usa bumper in 74 for the tits.

my car has got beautiful tits to go with an engine.

there may be nothing unusual about mr. 914043's car?

apart from its fantastic color.
i'd love to see more photos of it, i hope he is not put off.

as to originality.
thats a constantly moving target?
as 1.8 owners have recently determined with a round of new research.
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post Mar 23 2022, 10:41 AM
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Having a later model bumper on a car can be for many reasons.
In my case, my car had the Amco Crash Bars installed by the Dealer when new and
I didn't feel like dealing with a chrome shop to fill the holes and rechrome.
So I bought the Harrington Stainless Steel Bumpers and they only offered the later style bumpers at that time.
I still have my original rear bumper and it will stay with the car in case some day it really matters to the new owner, when I'm dead..

Next month starts my 49th year with the car.. Although it has been off the road since 1988..

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post Mar 23 2022, 02:12 PM
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@914043 … Beautiful -6! Your long term stewardship of this treasure’s impressive.

I only wish I’d wised up in my younger days and moved on from high HP, macho sports cars to a 914. IMHO 914’s are at the top of the heap for being fun-to-drive sports cars.

Although a true ‘70 -6, my car has a mishmash of changes / parts from different years, starting with a 2.7RS spec engine and rolled / modified fenders for tire clearance. Like your 914, it has a later style rear bumper, and valence. It even has an impact bumper nose piece. Not yet having had the chance for a side-to-side comparison with a known original ‘70 -6, there may be other incorrect features as well.
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The few -6’s were made a long time ago. Even in the ‘70’s they didn’t really stand out vs other cars in many enthusiast’s eyes. But the few people who recognized the 914’s virtues quickly took to modifying and racing them. Like many cars of that era, 914’s endured a period of neglect and devaluation.

Fast forward to today, and many, if not most remaining examples have lived pretty hard lives, and deserve to be preserved and honored. Whether still bone stock, highly modified, or reconstituted & restored, they all have interesting stories.

914043, please post as many photos of your labor of love as possible for us to enjoy.
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post Mar 23 2022, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Rufus @ Mar 23 2022, 02:12 PM) *

@914043 … Beautiful -6! Your long term stewardship of this treasure’s impressive.

I only wish I’d wised up in my younger days and moved on from high HP, macho sports cars to a 914. IMHO 914’s are at the top of the heap for being fun-to-drive sports cars.

Although a true ‘70 -6, my car has a mishmash of changes / parts from different years, starting with a 2.7RS spec engine and rolled / modified fenders for tire clearance. Like your 914, it has a later style rear bumper, and valence. It even has an impact bumper nose piece. Not yet having had the chance for a side-to-side comparison with a known original ‘70 -6, there may be other incorrect features as well.
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The few -6’s were made a long time ago. Even in the ‘70’s they didn’t really stand out vs other cars in many enthusiast’s eyes. But the few people who recognized the 914’s virtues quickly took to modifying and racing them. Like many cars of that era, 914’s endured a period of neglect and devaluation.

Fast forward to today, and many, if not most remaining examples have lived pretty hard lives, and deserve to be preserved and honored. Whether still bone stock, highly modified, or reconstituted & restored, they all have interesting stories.

914043, please post as many photos of your labor of love as possible for us to enjoy.


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There really are so few of any kind of 914, the story of each, and what makes it different, is important. I have the obit of the original owner of my car (widow lives a couple houses away) and a niece mentions how awesome it was to see this guy pull up in his chalon and take them for a drive. That kind of history, to me, is so much of cars like this. Wish I knew more about the original owner of my gt350. Certainly untouched since delivery is cool, but kind of boring.
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post Mar 23 2022, 04:44 PM
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It looks like dr914's M471 is up for sale at sotherby's?
has later style bumpers.
ia 71.


72s def had later style bumpers.
........and the rest of the 4 stuff on the interior.
here is a car sitting around in J.
30+ years ago some would have called that as a fake,
so thin spread was good knowledge that circulated.

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herr strenger's former car looked like it had later bumpers.
not sure, but looks like it in older period photo.
.....but maybe he bumped it or someone at porsche backed it into a pole before he got it.

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it can be an unpleasant experience having someone wander up and tell you your car doesn't have original this and original that.
have had my an engine car for 30 years - i come right after the original owner.
recently i treated a the engine owner to a look at it.
truthfully i was surprised such a person would even be interested.
i opened the rear trunk and was immediately/without hesitation told the foam filled cushion bag under the rear carpet was not original and it should have a glued down pad.

i shut the trunk and walked the "guest" away from the car and moved on to other conversations.

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post Mar 23 2022, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(914043 @ Mar 21 2022, 05:04 PM) *

owned 50 years preserved for 40 and now a 4 year refresh.

This is a 72? Weren't all the 72 6's European spec?
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post Mar 23 2022, 06:19 PM
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Thanks to all for your kind responses and no I didn't know the different style bumpers so I learned something new. Initially not happy the recent post of Herr Stenger's M471 gave me thought, good enough for Herr Strenger should be acceptable to mine. Looks damn nice if I do say so. Maybe the Pirelli CN 36s and Fuchs off of a72 911S are not stock but fit the care so well. To the other six owners out there keep the post going with best shot features and so will I to the extent the refresh continues. Thanks again, glad to be a small part of this great site and its endless stream of knowledgeable professional teeners.


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post Mar 23 2022, 06:28 PM
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@914043

yes, i reckon herr strenger is an authority when it comes to taste and provides reassurance in a world troubled by investment anxiety. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Mar 23 2022, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(73-914 @ Mar 23 2022, 06:18 PM) *

QUOTE(914043 @ Mar 21 2022, 05:04 PM) *

owned 50 years preserved for 40 and now a 4 year refresh.

This is a 72? Weren't all the 72 6's European spec?


thats interesting @73-914 .
in relation to the 72 golden yellow japan car i posted above.

it has side indicator lamps quite unlike the factory built J spec cars,
which had warts like USA cars - but the lens was different.

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its either a grey market japanized euro spec imported into J sometime after 72
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or its a special order the J importer was able to fulfil and japanize after arrival.

i suspect its the latter. at that time there was little to inhibit a euro spec car going into japan. LHD was permitted. headlight units would need to be altered.
and most importantly side indicators fitted.

but as you note they were only building euro spec so the holes in the body were not there for the warts.

you just answered something about that car that has interested me for a while.
its lack of warts. makes sense now why it hasn't got them.

its worth noting that back then both the australian and the japanese distributors had really old school relations with the factory. it was not like the american set up that used VW north america. those distributors could get just about anything a customer wanted.

one of the original 914/6 imported into australia would set some of you guys topsy turvy on all your what did they have and what didn't they have ideas. that car was built to a very different spec and arrangement right down to the gearbox. it was a 4 speed.
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QUOTE(73-914 @ Mar 23 2022, 07:18 PM) *

QUOTE(914043 @ Mar 21 2022, 05:04 PM) *

owned 50 years preserved for 40 and now a 4 year refresh.

This is a 72? Weren't all the 72 6's European spec?



The 1972 914-6 was only sold in Europe. It was a hybrid between a 4 and a 6. The chassis was a 4 cylinder chassis, complete with a 4 cylinder wiring harness and steering column. The suspension, engine, transmission and shifting was from a 6. The wiring harness had a short adapter pigtail to hook the six relay board to the four wiring harness. But it came with a 914 vin number, and was sold as a Porsche, not a VW-Porsche.

Basically, the factory took 4 cylinder chassies and did a 5 lug and six cylinder conversion on them to use up the leftover six parts.

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Some very cool history behind that six! I like seeing the snow catcher rear valence. Those are rare.
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post Mar 24 2022, 05:12 PM
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Some very cool history behind that six! I like seeing the snow catcher rear valence. Those are rare.

just to clarify the yellow 6 in the initial post is a 1970.I purchased it as is in 1972
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