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> 914 GT 3.6 Ferrari Build, Drive train mounted, on to the headers/exhaust
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post Aug 24 2023, 06:32 PM
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Food for thought, I like my shifter to be on the same plane as the steering wheel. It makes movement between the two, smoother and more accurate.
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post Aug 24 2023, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 24 2023, 05:32 PM) *

Food for thought, I like my shifter to be on the same plane as the steering wheel. It makes movement between the two, smoother and more accurate.

@Van B Great minds... When it's in neutral, the knob is in plane with the wheel.
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post Aug 24 2023, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Aug 24 2023, 09:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 24 2023, 05:32 PM) *

Food for thought, I like my shifter to be on the same plane as the steering wheel. It makes movement between the two, smoother and more accurate.

@Van B Great minds... When it's in neutral, the knob is in plane with the wheel.

Yes!

I did a mod to my 996 shifter to bring it up and in lineā€¦ then immediately wondered why I had the car for 10yrs before I made the change (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Sep 2 2023, 07:20 AM
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It's just a mount for the shifter. I mean, how complicated could I make that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0iLX7Aoak
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post Sep 2 2023, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Aug 24 2023, 06:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 24 2023, 05:32 PM) *

Food for thought, I like my shifter to be on the same plane as the steering wheel. It makes movement between the two, smoother and more accurate.

@Van B Great minds... When it's in neutral, the knob is in plane with the wheel.

Hmmm. I located mine inline with the steering wheel too but I'm damn sure not going to claim a great mind on my part. It is more 914 like; rusty. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 2 2023, 08:31 AM
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Jesus, if Chris manufactured the "Red Barn" model 914 I have to believe there would be a line of customers. The attention to detail is mind boggling. Love the details and of course a wonderful message for people to adopt a kitty. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 2 2023, 10:00 AM
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Nice work! Big step forward figuring all the little details that I am sure took many hours to figure out.
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post Sep 2 2023, 11:43 AM
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Cool shifter location study. The side views on the videos really show what is going on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

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post Nov 17 2023, 02:28 PM
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I don't do the best at juggling multiple project but I am making progress. The past couple days has been noodling on the cooling system.
I've been looking at various mid- and rear-engined cars and how, in order to have some sort of frunk, they typically run a pair of radiators - one each in front of the front wheels.
Here's a 360 showing its rad.
I figure, if they can do it, I can do it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
After some closer eyeballing of the 914 chassis, I decided I'd give it a go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


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post Nov 17 2023, 02:36 PM
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post Nov 17 2023, 02:47 PM
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First step is a proof of concept. I decided to use a corner of the black donor chassis and started cutting. A few important points:
- I want to keep the pop-up look so no "lights in the turn signal buckets". I found a set of DOT legal hi/low LED lights that use 60mm beams in a 90 mm mount system. The plan is to mount them to the rear wall of what's left of the headlight bucket.
- this is a '75 BUB chassis but you can see that this approach preserves the area needed for the bumper mounts.
- looks like plenty of depth for a radiator and fan set up.
- the turn signal bucket is totally out of the way.
- depending of final available space, it looks like I can get maybe a 12x14 radiator in there.

The Renegade radiator in my LS car is 27" x 14" (378 sq. in.)
Let's go with worst case: I can only get two, 10"x12" or 240 sq. in. in there. I can get 5"x24" in the center for a total of 360 sq. in. So even worst case looks like it can work.

I'm enouraged! Now to find some radiators...


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post Nov 17 2023, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 17 2023, 12:47 PM) *

First step is a proof of concept. I decided to use a corner of the black donor chassis and started cutting. A few important points:
- I want to keep the pop-up look so no "lights in the turn signal buckets". I found a set of DOT legal hi/low LED lights that use 60mm beams in a 90 mm mount system. The plan is to mount them to the rear wall of what's left of the headlight bucket.
- this is a '75 BUB chassis but you can see that this approach preserves the area needed for the bumper mounts.
- looks like plenty of depth for a radiator and fan set up.
- the turn signal bucket is totally out of the way.
- depending of final available space, it looks like I can get maybe a 12x14 radiator in there.

The Renegade radiator in my LS car is 27" x 14" (378 sq. in.)
Let's go with worst case: I can only get two, 10"x12" or 240 sq. in. in there. I can get 5"x24" in the center for a total of 360 sq. in. So even worst case looks like it can work.

I'm enouraged! Now to find some radiators...

996 turbo radiators?
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post Nov 18 2023, 07:09 AM
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Just a quick update on the shifter install -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk7GuevMZxg
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post Nov 18 2023, 09:20 AM
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Just such great work happening at the Red Barn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 18 2023, 02:03 PM
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You should base the cooling math on the Ferrari not the Chevy.... including air intake and exhaust hole sizes.

Also you don't have to see the rad from the front to cool it. Mine uses the horn grills as intakes plus most of the round holes from a spoiler trim, couple of additions to the back of the bumper to direct airflow, and I'm good.

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post Nov 18 2023, 09:55 PM
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Love watching your videos and drooling over your work. Looking forward to my next visit.
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post Nov 18 2023, 11:35 PM
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I WANT TO SHIFT IT!!!!!!!!!

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(Text me if the shifter is still attached)
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post Nov 19 2023, 09:08 PM
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"I want to keep the pop-up look so no "lights in the turn signal buckets". I found a set of DOT legal hi/low LED lights that use 60mm beams in a 90 mm mount system. The plan is to mount them to the rear wall of what's left of the headlight bucket."


I've thought about this 996/987 style "side pod" radiator approach on and off - glad to see you noodling on it for this project. I think with the pop up lids and some physically smaller LED light units, you could get some extra ducted air in there at freeway vehlcle speeds - so the fan controller overrides the headlight lifter relay! (visual indicator for the driver to check engine temp!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). The fan loading might be eased a bit. Active aero, dude.....

Also the lift angle on the headlight covers could be restricted to create a less severe angle when open with the smaller diameter units - I seem to recall a post here that someone had done this.

Fun stuff Chris - keep the posts coming!

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post Nov 20 2023, 04:19 PM
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I cut a mock-up mount for the Hella LEDs I'm considering. Mounting info in the pics. They're 60mm lenses, DOT legal, separate hi and low beam units. Looks like they'll work.

Bonus idea, thanks to @horizontally-opposed Pete, is that I think I can get them to sit fully behind the rear wall of the headlight bucket and rather than have the light covers pop up at the front, like stock, they'll hinge at the front and drop down at the back, exposing the bulbs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Yes, it'll require permanently connecting the eyebrows to the covers and working up a new hinge system but, hey, if it were easy, everyone would be doing it.



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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Nov 20 2023, 02:19 PM) *

I cut a mock-up mount for the Hella LEDs I'm considering. Mounting info in the pics. They're 60mm lenses, DOT legal, separate hi and low beam units. Looks like they'll work.

Bonus idea, thanks to @horizontally-opposed Pete, is that I think I can get them to sit fully behind the rear wall of the headlight bucket and rather than have the light covers pop up at the front, like stock, they'll hinge at the front and drop down at the back, exposing the bulbs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

Yes, it'll require permanently connecting the eyebrows to the covers and working up a new hinge system but, hey, if it were easy, everyone would be doing it.



That will be so cool! I love that idea!
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