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> Does Anyone Have a Type 4 VW, VW 411/412
Highland
post Jun 28 2022, 05:21 PM
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Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I never see them mentioned on this site.

Just curious how hard it is to get parts e.g. seals, seat covers, headliners, etc? Does the transmission share engagement teeth and sncyros with our 914's?

Maybe it's me, but I can't find 411/412 parts on common VW parts store like bus depot, CIP1, etc.
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post Jun 29 2022, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Highland @ Jun 29 2022, 11:21 AM) *

Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I never see them mentioned on this site.

Just curious how hard it is to get parts e.g. seals, seat covers, headliners, etc? Does the transmission share engagement teeth and sncyros with our 914's?

Maybe it's me, but I can't find 411/412 parts on common VW parts store like bus depot, CIP1, etc.


These cars were in my country in the 80's ,apparently they drove and handled well but according to an old dutch mechanic I talked to the VW service departments weren't that fussed with them due to them overheating ,he said many motors failed and were replaced by the factory under warranty,he mentioned many he came across had experienced head failures.
I like the wagons ,the fastback was from most angles an odd looking car IMO.
Gearboxs ? the manual was unique to these cars,not sure what the internals were,most like some crossover to the beetle IRS box (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) .
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post Jun 29 2022, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 29 2022, 04:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Highland @ Jun 29 2022, 11:21 AM) *

Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I never see them mentioned on this site.

Just curious how hard it is to get parts e.g. seals, seat covers, headliners, etc? Does the transmission share engagement teeth and sncyros with our 914's?

Maybe it's me, but I can't find 411/412 parts on common VW parts store like bus depot, CIP1, etc.


These cars were in my country in the 80's ,apparently they drove and handled well but according to an old dutch mechanic I talked to the VW service departments weren't that fussed with them due to them overheating ,he said many motors failed and were replaced by the factory under warranty,he mentioned many he came across had experienced head failures.
I like the wagons ,the fastback was from most angles an odd looking car IMO.
Gearboxs ? the manual was unique to these cars,not sure what the internals were,most like some crossover to the beetle IRS box (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) .


yes - funny about new zealand.
a bloke in new zealand was a real enthusiast of 411/412s.
he wrote a book which i have on my shelves i got a fair while back.
Volkswagens of the World. Simon Glen.

interesting story about overheating type 4s.
we tended to have the opposite experience in australia.
the type 4 engine was only in kombi buses but it ran very well in the hot conditions here and the cooling system was generally regarded as far superior to the type 3 pancake engine.
the type 3 engine certainly did overheat.
i had to ease off in summer with mine out on the highway and stick to 50mph on aussie summer days. flog them to 60 on a hot day and drive them long enough and they would burn valves.
the flaw was in the location of the oil cooler which was basically an adaption of the beetle. they just laid the oil cooler flat instead of vertical and received cooling air that had already passed over the front cylinder. from memory it was always cylinder #3 that gave the problem. even with care the pancake motors never lasted as long as the upright beetle engines. perhaps the dutch mechanic was talking about that engine which was in the type 3 cars rather than the type 4 engine?

there were plenty of type 3s down our way in australia and probably new zealand in the 60s and 70s?
they were locally manufactured at the australian plant in clayton in melbourne.

VW rejected the 411/412 for sale in australia. the car was unable to compete with japanese imports that were coming in to their own at the time. VW tried to stay in the market with the golf and the passat, which i think continued to be locally assembled but the japanese were just too good. all over by the very early 80s and VW left the market down here. as did just about every other european brand.
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Highland   Does Anyone Have a Type 4 VW   Jun 28 2022, 05:21 PM
GregAmy   411/412 were very rare even in the 1980s when I st...   Jun 28 2022, 05:45 PM
CCE   Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I ne...   Jun 28 2022, 05:58 PM
wonkipop   Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I ne...   Jun 28 2022, 06:07 PM
jim_hoyland   IIRC, Mike D has one. @Mike D   Jun 28 2022, 06:09 PM
StarBear   Almost bought a used 412 when I wanted to semi-ret...   Jun 28 2022, 06:22 PM
wonkipop   Almost bought a used 412 when I wanted to semi-re...   Jun 28 2022, 06:36 PM
StarBear   Almost bought a used 412 when I wanted to semi-r...   Jun 28 2022, 07:37 PM
enf2232   Almost bought a used 412 when I wanted to semi-r...   Oct 13 2023, 04:35 PM
fixer34   Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I ne...   Jun 28 2022, 06:42 PM
9146C   My first car was a 1971 411 Wagon with the 1.7 m...   Jun 29 2022, 06:21 AM
porschetub   Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I ne...   Jun 29 2022, 04:00 PM
wonkipop   Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I n...   Jun 29 2022, 08:38 PM
porschetub   [quote name='porschetub' post='3012119' date='Jun...   Jun 30 2022, 02:36 PM
davep   We had a 411 sedan 4 speed manual some 30 years ag...   Jun 29 2022, 05:41 PM
SKL1   Interesting thread- can't remember the last ti...   Jun 29 2022, 08:54 PM
wonkipop   @porschetub yeah you could be right about 411/41...   Jun 30 2022, 06:52 PM
rhodyguy   Best looking one I've ever seen was a 2 door, ...   Jul 2 2022, 12:29 PM
jjs3rd914   I had one for many years as a daily driver and win...   Jul 29 2022, 05:07 AM
jdamiano   My buddy Nathan has one he is trying to get road w...   Jul 29 2022, 07:02 AM
volksaddict   My first car was a 412, I was 12 years old, way to...   Jul 29 2022, 08:21 AM
Bullethead   There was a family in our neighborhood that got a ...   Jul 29 2022, 09:13 AM
Root_Werks   I bought one back in 1986 or 1987. Drove it aroun...   Jul 29 2022, 10:59 AM
KSCarrera   Had two 411s, both LE automatics in Gambia Red wit...   Jul 29 2022, 12:56 PM
theer   Wow- the VW 411/412- brings back memories. … the...   Jul 30 2022, 06:20 AM
jjs3rd914   I often have thought about if I would have kept mi...   Jul 30 2022, 06:44 AM
flyer86d   I ordered a new Westmoreland built Vw GTI in Septe...   Jul 30 2022, 07:12 PM
Highland   Did the 412 have a type 4 like the 914 or a bus ty...   Aug 5 2022, 03:36 PM
914sgofast2   Did the 412 have a type 4 like the 914 or a bus t...   Aug 5 2022, 05:20 PM
wonkipop   Did the 412 have a type 4 like the 914 or a bus ...   Aug 5 2022, 05:31 PM
steve_1125   Hi, just saw this. I have a 1974 412 Wagon and it...   Oct 13 2023, 02:13 PM
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Freezin 914   Hi, just saw this. I have a 1974 412 Wagon and i...   Oct 15 2023, 07:00 AM
Karl R   Lovely car. Learned how to drive in one on a grav...   Oct 13 2023, 02:33 PM
914sgofast2   See the VW 411/412 Forum over at the Samba.com for...   Oct 13 2023, 04:03 PM


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