Does Anyone Have a Type 4 VW, VW 411/412 |
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Does Anyone Have a Type 4 VW, VW 411/412 |
Highland |
Jun 28 2022, 05:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 512 Joined: 8-August 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 13,418 Region Association: Southern California |
Just wondering if anyone drives a VW Type 4. I never see them mentioned on this site.
Just curious how hard it is to get parts e.g. seals, seat covers, headliners, etc? Does the transmission share engagement teeth and sncyros with our 914's? Maybe it's me, but I can't find 411/412 parts on common VW parts store like bus depot, CIP1, etc. |
wonkipop |
Jun 30 2022, 06:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,255 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
@porschetub
yeah you could be right about 411/412 ducting. but maybe not so much the ducting as the cooling inlet louvre location? the notchback type 3 of which there is a great abundance of here (or was at one time) had the cooling grille inlet spread across the top of the panel between the rear screen and the edge of the engine (rear trunk) lid. apparently this was the ideal place aerodynamically for pulling the air in. but the type 3 fast backs had the louvres on the rear guards down the flanks identical to the squarebacks. story i got told was the sloping fast back shape meant that intake louvres somewhere on the top surface of the engine lid or near rear window would not work. the angle was not right. it worked on a beetle but not a type 3 which had a less steep rake. the rest of the internal bodywork ducting into the fan on all three type 3 models was identical. only the variant (squareback) 411s and 412s had intake louvres along the flanks - the sedan and fastback versions did have it on the engine lid which sloped in a way that was not unlike the fast back type 3s. maybe a little less gentle than the type 3 but certainly not as steep as the beetle. maybe vw screwed up on that one? possibly the dutch mechanic might have been talking about that? the 411/412 variant also had bodywork ducting and fan boot almost identical to type 3s but the sedan and fastback were very different. had some kind of big engine bay grilled duct inside the compartment and air flowed into that via the decklid. might have been a mess up for hotter climates but ok in europe? nevertheless the type 3 was a flawed engine in inherent cooling terms. it might have worked ok in europe but it was marginal in aus in high summer or out in the hotter parts of country australia. they all had cool tins on them down here from early on. might have even been invented by VW australia or VW south africa? who knows. didn't help them here. the basic problem was that oil cooler. archilles heel. the rest of the type 3 was great. with superb packaging. but boy you had to baby them in summer. change the oil, keep it fresh and really nurse them on a hot day. and even with all that they still gave up the ghost in half the time of a beetle engine. EDIT at least they finally fixed that idiocy with the oil cooler on the type 4 engine. it was smart to finally give it a dedicated feed off the fan and blow that out the bottom without going anywhere near the cylinders. took them enough time to get that right. the type 3 should have got the type 4 motor instead of the shorcut version it got. |
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