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> I found a 6 cylinder! And some other stuff, I’m a bad decision maker
B3owulf
post Sep 10 2022, 07:18 PM
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So I previously posted looking for advice on building a type 4 or trying for a -6 conversation. In general people advised a mild type 4 build and just enjoy the drive. I decided to keep an eye out for a 6 but plan on just using the type 4 I had.

Then I got a few weeks leave from Iraq and happened to come across a no reserve eBay auction for a storage unit not far from home. I got a 2.0 MFI 911E engine, a complete 1.7 type 4, and a destroyed targa 911 for about $6k. Both engines turn over easily and look fairly complete (have not had time for a detailed inventory yet though). Pretty excited, need to offload or strip the 911 before I head back to Iraq but I’m looking forward to trying to get this 6 conversation going! If this ends up needing a rebuild I will probably run a 4 while I acquire parts/save money but it should be a fun long term goal!

I will post some pictures in a bit…the 911 is comically bad.
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post Sep 10 2022, 07:28 PM
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Should have a gold mine of parts on the 911 IF they are not trash.
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post Sep 10 2022, 07:38 PM
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Nice find on the engine.
What year is the targa?
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:02 PM
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:08 PM
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I dont know the year on the targa, the data plate is damaged. I will try figuring it out from the VIN tomorrow.

I would describe it as not economically repairable but the suspension and brakes are there, it rolls freely, and the floor pan looks solid so it could be a good parts car.

Really I just wanted the 911 engine.
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:19 PM
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Great buy.
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:23 PM
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Nice score.

I can imagine one scenario:
Build a 914 with the suspension and brakes from the derelict Targa, and run it initially with the 1.7. Part out the rest of the Targa to fund rebuilding the six, and then put it in the 914.

And watch yourself over there.
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post Sep 10 2022, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Sep 10 2022, 09:23 PM) *

Nice score.

I can imagine one scenario:
Build a 914 with the suspension and brakes from the derelict Targa, and run it initially with the 1.7. Part out the rest of the Targa to fund rebuilding the six, and then put it in the 914.

And watch yourself over there.


Definitely a great option, I’m hoping it does not need a full rebuild but who knows.
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post Sep 10 2022, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(B3owulf @ Sep 10 2022, 07:32 PM) *

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Sep 10 2022, 09:23 PM) *

Nice score.

I can imagine one scenario:
Build a 914 with the suspension and brakes from the derelict Targa, and run it initially with the 1.7. Part out the rest of the Targa to fund rebuilding the six, and then put it in the 914.

And watch yourself over there.


Definitely a great option, I’m hoping it does not need a full rebuild but who knows.

Great find and the E motor is worth a lot more than you paid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)!

A full engine and MFI system rebuild is staggering, but the starting price helps.


…guessing a 76 or 77
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post Sep 10 2022, 09:12 PM
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The deal was worth it for the mfi engine alone. I haven’t sold one recently but a non running E should be worth double what you paid. More if it runs and the numbers are good.

Edit - looking at pics, it might also need a complete rebuild and that’s $20-30k with mfi


Take a look at 914-6Werkshop.com for really great conversion parts. The owner Ben goes by MB911 on this site.
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post Sep 11 2022, 01:09 AM
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The gold foil on the fan strap would make it a 1969 2.0 E with the yellow fiberglass.
The pull type clutch says 2.2 or newer. Or installed with a newer trans.
Look on the casting upright at 5oclock on the fan support and at the horizontal
surface just below.
You'll find the engine type stamped there.
Excellent find.
You deserve it.
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post Sep 11 2022, 05:16 AM
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Nice buy.. exactly like we discussed previous to your deployment. Best of luck.
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post Sep 11 2022, 06:13 AM
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Those aluminum trailing arms and taillight features are much more recent than the engine.
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post Sep 11 2022, 06:39 AM
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Congratulations on a terrific find/buy. Thank you for your service and watch how you go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Sep 11 2022, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 11 2022, 06:16 AM) *

Nice buy.. exactly like we discussed previous to your deployment. Best of luck.


Exactly! I will get in touch when the dust settles a bit and we can discuss swap parts.
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post Sep 11 2022, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(B3owulf @ Sep 11 2022, 10:04 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 11 2022, 06:16 AM) *

Nice buy.. exactly like we discussed previous to your deployment. Best of luck.


Exactly! I will get in touch when the dust settles a bit and we can discuss swap parts.



Sounds good. Stay safe.
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post Sep 11 2022, 05:59 PM
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Wow...Farout. Congrats on the score
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post Sep 12 2022, 07:31 AM
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These days the lowly 1.7 case is the go to for performance T-4 builds. Don't discount it's value just yet.
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post Sep 12 2022, 08:46 AM
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Wow, nice score! Lots of great parts.

Sound that MFI engine, if it doesn't need a rebuild, that's a great find.
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post Sep 22 2022, 01:14 PM
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Had some time to tinker, so far nothing hugely alarming on the engine. The pump spins freely, plunger on the back compresses and resets smoothly, and nothing seems bound up. I am missing a throttle linkage and most of the hoses probably should be replaced but overall not bad.

Took some pictures down the bores, no corrosion but certainly a bit of wear and carbon. Also all the pistons have a 0 on the face. It is not something I am familiar with. Did some googling but no answers yet.

Unfortunately I will have to pause the work for a while but can move forward by looking for parts and building some knowledge on this MFI madness.

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