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| wonkipop |
Sep 20 2022, 01:29 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,480 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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a side benefit of looking into 74 1.8s on BAT, along with member's data is i (and you) can spot 74 2.0s that never were. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-porsche-914-65-2/ |
| Pezz |
Sep 20 2022, 04:33 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 4-November 19 From: Paisley Oregon Member No.: 23,621 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I watch BaT and CL and recently posted here about PCarMarket.
I'm into conditional probabilities, kind of a statistics freak, been watching prices since the late '90s. These auction websites are interesting resources to see what people think is a good reserve price and whether reserves are broken. The PCarMarket auctions are interesting to follow the bidding and the comments. The CL ads are telling also, hardly any 914s hang around there. (https://cargraph.com/usa/porsche/914) I've been looking for comps for @Marv's3.6six stolen 914 and how difficult his situation is when one owns such an "outlier" of a car and setting a price, wherein I would like to help him. (http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=361739&hl=insurance) The rise and fall of the market for 914s is not unlike the stock market, yet it is different where some people's souls are sold on 914s, willing to pay out the nose for a special car or even not so special. Lately I've thought how useful it could be to have an auction setup on 914World. Auction cars and parts and services. These auction websites are not difficult to set up. Just throwing that idea out there. 914World is one helluva cool website, I've learned so much valuable information. Thank you All. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
| dirk2056 |
Sep 20 2022, 05:33 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 31-July 17 From: cincinnati/Eastside Member No.: 21,304 Region Association: Middle East
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The idea of auction page is good but typical 914 owner is a doer! They buy these cars and work on them themselves. The people paying big money at auctions are garage queens but all cars go up for sale someday.
Ditto! 914World is one helluva cool website, I've learned so much valuable information. Thank you All. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) [/quote] |
| Marv's3.6six |
Sep 22 2022, 09:06 AM
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Actual member 7" ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 695 Joined: 22-November 04 From: Huntington Beach, Ca. Member No.: 3,165 Region Association: Southern California
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I watch BaT and CL and recently posted here about PCarMarket. I'm into conditional probabilities, kind of a statistics freak, been watching prices since the late '90s. These auction websites are interesting resources to see what people think is a good reserve price and whether reserves are broken. The PCarMarket auctions are interesting to follow the bidding and the comments. The CL ads are telling also, hardly any 914s hang around there. (https://cargraph.com/usa/porsche/914) I've been looking for comps for @Marv's3.6six stolen 914 and how difficult his situation is when one owns such an "outlier" of a car and setting a price, wherein I would like to help him. (http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=361739&hl=insurance) The rise and fall of the market for 914s is not unlike the stock market, yet it is different where some people's souls are sold on 914s, willing to pay out the nose for a special car or even not so special. Lately I've thought how useful it could be to have an auction setup on 914World. Auction cars and parts and services. These auction websites are not difficult to set up. Just throwing that idea out there. 914World is one helluva cool website, I've learned so much valuable information. Thank you All. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Thanks for thinking of me and my situation. I am still in limbo. |
| SKL1 |
Sep 22 2022, 01:01 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I'm always following a few P cars, and the occasional F355 gated manual, and get notified when a 914 is listed. Actually had one recently from my hometown- realized it when recognizing the roads on the driving video!
Bid on a nice GT tribute a couple weeks ago- didn't feel bad when it went for 20K more than my top dollar. There is quite a range of cars, and a real range of knowledge of what people are looking at, or commenting about. |
| CCE |
Sep 22 2022, 05:06 PM
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CCE ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 28-December 21 From: Mexico Member No.: 26,203 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Lets see what the yellow 2.0 does. I think mine is in better condition.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-porsche-914-84/ |
| kenshapiro2002 |
Nov 28 2025, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’ve bought two so far on BAT and both from their “partner” Avant Garde (911r). Great cars, beautifully presented ( though they conveniently leave out photos of minor flaws), but these guys just lie about when wires and titles are moving. That’s no slam on BAT, just Avant Garde (911r) and they move a lot of 914s alongside a gazillion other Porsches. Wondering if anybody else has had similar experiences.
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| Matty900 |
Nov 29 2025, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Avant-garde is an interesting business model. They basically built their whole business to sell cars on BAT. They bring in consignment cars and may actually buy cars too. The run them through their shop with mechanics that are actually pretty talented with the cars that they get. Then they have a really good photographer. There is a YouTube channel called Bidnerds that is like a game show where you make predictions on what cars will sell of on auction sites and then they reconcile them the next episode. It's fun but I am biased because they are friends of mine. But I know that they have covered a few of the Avant-garde 914's as well as other cars they have sold. https://youtube.com/@bidnerds?si=l5nT0FTGvv4OUOGs since they do it as a live show you have to look under the "live" section to find the videos and then just look for the dates around when your car sold and you can see if they covered your car
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| SKL1 |
Nov 29 2025, 10:08 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,778 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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I’ve bought two so far on BAT and both from their “partner” Avant Garde (911r). Great cars, beautifully presented ( though they conveniently leave out photos of minor flaws), but these guys just lie about when wires and titles are moving. That’s no slam on BAT, just Avant Garde (911r) and they move a lot of 914s alongside a gazillion other Porsches. Wondering if anybody else has had similar experiences. Ken- PM sent... |
| kenshapiro2002 |
Nov 29 2025, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I’ve bought two so far on BAT and both from their “partner” Avant Garde (911r). Great cars, beautifully presented ( though they conveniently leave out photos of minor flaws), but these guys just lie about when wires and titles are moving. That’s no slam on BAT, just Avant Garde (911r) and they move a lot of 914s alongside a gazillion other Porsches. Wondering if anybody else has had similar experiences. Ken- PM sent... So much agreement about how dishonest Avant Garde (911r) is and for some reason fear to say it out loud. Great cars… great wrenches… great photography but lies lies lies about wires, titles, etc. after the sale. |
| jhynesrockmtn |
Nov 30 2025, 11:42 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I dealt with them on an inquiry to consign my 356 on BAT earlier this year. The fees are really high. I think they get 10% and like a $1,500 listing fee to start. It goes up from there if you want dry ice treatment, etc. They wanted a top reserve of $75k on mine. I sold it locally for $85k and got to keep all of that money. It's an interesting business model, but very expensive for the seller. Now, they may have gotten more than $85k for my car, but no way they covered that level of fees.
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| Matty900 |
Nov 30 2025, 07:46 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,302 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I dealt with them on an inquiry to consign my 356 on BAT earlier this year. The fees are really high. I think they get 10% and like a $1,500 listing fee to start. It goes up from there if you want dry ice treatment, etc. They wanted a top reserve of $75k on mine. I sold it locally for $85k and got to keep all of that money. It's an interesting business model, but very expensive for the seller. Now, they may have gotten more than $85k for my car, but no way they covered that level of fees. For a long time when the market was really hot, you had to wait for a long time to get your car listed on BAT and it was a little bit of a pain. These guys were basically a power seller and had some pull and understood what made it work. At the end of the day, it's basically a used car dealership. Like many of them, your mileage may vary. They started out here in Portland and expanded to Arizona.I know some very good people that have worked there but they are no longer there. I have never heard of any intentionally shady (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) And I know my friends would not have tolerated any of that. But they do seem much happier now. |
| 914rrr |
Dec 2 2025, 07:53 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,038 Joined: 1-July 03 From: Knoxville, TN Member No.: 874 Region Association: South East States |
Prices may have dropped because of the economy, but also the end of the summer is not the best time to sell an open top car. I do have a comment regarding the silver 71 sold earlier this week. I did not want to comment on the site and piss on the new owner's parade, but $22K for a car that has a hell hole rust hole big enough to fit my hand through? And who is @MCShack ? If you read this, you thought that this car should have gone for more??? Please explain how much more. Cracks in the dash, removed FI, another hole in a fender well. Some of the other comments shocked me. I couldn't find a silver 71 selling for $22k on the BaT results page. Was it on PCA Mart or another auction site? |
| Front yard mechanic |
Dec 2 2025, 08:52 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,439 Joined: 23-July 15 From: New Mexico Member No.: 18,984 Region Association: None
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Prices may have dropped because of the economy, but also the end of the summer is not the best time to sell an open top car. I do have a comment regarding the silver 71 sold earlier this week. I did not want to comment on the site and piss on the new owner's parade, but $22K for a car that has a hell hole rust hole big enough to fit my hand through? And who is @MCShack ? If you read this, you thought that this car should have gone for more??? Please explain how much more. Cracks in the dash, removed FI, another hole in a fender well. Some of the other comments shocked me. I couldn't find a silver 71 selling for $22k on the BaT results page. Was it on PCA Mart or another auction site? Ditto |
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