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Put a 2.7 6 into a 72 Bay Window Bus?, Porsche content. Don't judge me! |
VaccaRabite |
Nov 3 2022, 12:31 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,441 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So, Lets say you had a 2.7L 6 with complete and intact CIS, good compression, taken out of a running car that wanted to go electric.
And lets say you had a Bay Window Westy. And, for the sake of argument - what do you think it would take to put them together. I've got the 915 and the engine and a bus that's about 70% through its restoration. Current plan is to get the bus running on its existing 1.7 first. Then add the engine to the bus transmission and drive it like that. And eventually add the 915 into the mix which may or may not require a bunch of changes. I know that this is a thing that has been done. Anyone done it? For the first stage - I'd need an oil tank (maybe - may have one), and would need tins. A different flywheel and maybe a different clutch - may be able to take these off the bus. I'll need exhaust. Heat isn't a concern - I'm using a diesel heater for heat so I am not worried about heat exchangers. I suppose another option might be to put it into a dune buggy... but no. The bus will like it a good bit more. Zach |
VaccaRabite |
May 10 2023, 07:59 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,441 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I did some measurements the other day.
The engine bay is 14 inches tall. The 2.7 with CIS is 18 inches tall from the top of the engine mount bar to the top of the highest point. So if I want to keep CIS I need to mount the engine lower in the bus and rig up a skid plate or something to protect it since it will now be the lowest part of the bus save the wheels. Or my measurements are wrong because I'm a total noob to 6 engines and I have no idea how they work or mount. @Maltese Falcon With you conversions back in the day... Was service to the engine a "drop the engine to change a spark-plug" kinda thing? Did the engines need to be lower in the engine bay to fit? I know if I went carbs or some other fuel injection I would loose several inches of height that the CIS currently has. And I'm sure Eric would be happy to sell me a plug and play injection setup when I get to that point if I don't want to use PMOs and can't get the stock CIS to work right. Thanks! Zach |
type2man |
May 10 2023, 10:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 3-March 09 From: Miami, Fl Member No.: 10,127 Region Association: South East States |
I did some measurements the other day. The engine bay is 14 inches tall. The 2.7 with CIS is 18 inches tall from the top of the engine mount bar to the top of the highest point. So if I want to keep CIS I need to mount the engine lower in the bus and rig up a skid plate or something to protect it since it will now be the lowest part of the bus save the wheels. Or my measurements are wrong because I'm a total noob to 6 engines and I have no idea how they work or mount. @Maltese Falcon With you conversions back in the day... Was service to the engine a "drop the engine to change a spark-plug" kinda thing? Did the engines need to be lower in the engine bay to fit? I know if I went carbs or some other fuel injection I would loose several inches of height that the CIS currently has. And I'm sure Eric would be happy to sell me a plug and play injection setup when I get to that point if I don't want to use PMOs and can't get the stock CIS to work right. Thanks! Zach Did you ever get your 914 going? I remember it was carbureted, then megasquirt, then jack rabe helped you with it. Where is it now... |
VaccaRabite |
May 11 2023, 07:45 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,441 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Did you ever get your 914 going? I remember it was carbureted, then megasquirt, then jack rabe helped you with it. Where is it now... Its been a whole journey. Yeah, been driving it all over the easy coast since 2017 with the Megasquirt motor. Playing with the tune the entire time, becasue you can do the with MS, and it suits my need to tinker with stuff. And then a friend started talking about a new motor he was going to get from PMB and I got some major FOMO and also had a little money burning a hole in my pocket. So I put a new 2258 fuel injected engine from PMB in my 914. My (now about perfectly tuned and good running) 2056 got sold. The 2258 is still in break in (only 50 miles on it yet, going to put about 300 on it this weekend if plans hold) but its amazing. Everything feels like I'm one gear lower compared to the 2056 - and my 2056 was NOT a slouch either... My 914 could probably keep up with a modern mini-van in a drag race now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Joking aside, the new 2258 in my 914 likely has about the same power as the CIS 2.7 I want to put in the bus. It took time to get, but the 914 really just flies with it. Were it not for the bus project, I'd be welding the steel flares I have for the 914 on this spring and going 5 lug. But right now I'll just have to content myself with driving the 914 while the bus continues its restoration. Zach |
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