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Put a 2.7 6 into a 72 Bay Window Bus?, Porsche content. Don't judge me! |
Maltese Falcon |
Mar 21 2023, 08:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
@anderssj that's my old buddy Dieter Wanderer's single cab, now with a 3.2L. He's a former SoCal dude...now in Minnesota. When it orig had the 2.7L he drove it round trip from L.A. to the Yukon. Only hit a bear on the old Alcan highway...it was just a bump !
Bear kept going and Dieter only lost one headlight (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Maltese Falcon |
Mar 22 2023, 10:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
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Maltese Falcon |
Mar 22 2023, 10:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
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Maltese Falcon |
Mar 22 2023, 10:26 PM
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Maltese Falcon |
Mar 22 2023, 10:29 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
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anderssj |
May 10 2023, 07:01 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,640 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Wow, small world…and nice work on that truck. Nord Stern region is hosting another get together on June 25…I’ll say hi if I see him!
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Maltese Falcon |
May 10 2023, 07:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Wow, small world…and nice work on that truck. Nord Stern region is hosting another get together on June 25…I’ll say hi if I see him! Dieter has great stories from that Alcan Hwy trip, def give him (and Arlene) my best regards ! Marty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/number40_914.jpg) |
VaccaRabite |
May 10 2023, 07:59 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,405 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I did some measurements the other day.
The engine bay is 14 inches tall. The 2.7 with CIS is 18 inches tall from the top of the engine mount bar to the top of the highest point. So if I want to keep CIS I need to mount the engine lower in the bus and rig up a skid plate or something to protect it since it will now be the lowest part of the bus save the wheels. Or my measurements are wrong because I'm a total noob to 6 engines and I have no idea how they work or mount. @Maltese Falcon With you conversions back in the day... Was service to the engine a "drop the engine to change a spark-plug" kinda thing? Did the engines need to be lower in the engine bay to fit? I know if I went carbs or some other fuel injection I would loose several inches of height that the CIS currently has. And I'm sure Eric would be happy to sell me a plug and play injection setup when I get to that point if I don't want to use PMOs and can't get the stock CIS to work right. Thanks! Zach |
Dr Evil |
May 10 2023, 08:06 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You know, I still have my CIS set up for my engine that was custom fit into my 74 bus. I used a Volvo air box to lower the height and allow me to move the air box over. Also used my own homemade plenum, that I still have. Should bolt to a 911, the corvair was machined to have a weber 3c pattern.
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Dr Evil |
May 10 2023, 08:15 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,993 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
CIS development for in bus use, can be adapted to your bus. You can try my set up if you want.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...7036&st=100 Starting around post #1142 is fab of the CIS system and other musings. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...gin&st=1100 |
type2man |
May 10 2023, 10:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 353 Joined: 3-March 09 From: Miami, Fl Member No.: 10,127 Region Association: South East States |
I did some measurements the other day. The engine bay is 14 inches tall. The 2.7 with CIS is 18 inches tall from the top of the engine mount bar to the top of the highest point. So if I want to keep CIS I need to mount the engine lower in the bus and rig up a skid plate or something to protect it since it will now be the lowest part of the bus save the wheels. Or my measurements are wrong because I'm a total noob to 6 engines and I have no idea how they work or mount. @Maltese Falcon With you conversions back in the day... Was service to the engine a "drop the engine to change a spark-plug" kinda thing? Did the engines need to be lower in the engine bay to fit? I know if I went carbs or some other fuel injection I would loose several inches of height that the CIS currently has. And I'm sure Eric would be happy to sell me a plug and play injection setup when I get to that point if I don't want to use PMOs and can't get the stock CIS to work right. Thanks! Zach Did you ever get your 914 going? I remember it was carbureted, then megasquirt, then jack rabe helped you with it. Where is it now... |
Maltese Falcon |
May 10 2023, 11:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
@VaccaRabite
Zach...I never put a CIS engine into a Vanagon; only the 3.2L with Bosch DME motronic. Only needed to sand away approx ½" of sound-deadening material from under the engine lid. Engine didn't sit any lower than the oe water-boxer 2.1L engine. On some converted ('79-earlier) busses, I've seen a few that had a custom made/upholstered rear cushion/on a slightly taller sheet-metal "Box". Vanagon had normal (911'ish) engine servicing of engine/trans...only dropped it for clutch or t/o/b service. Marty |
VaccaRabite |
May 11 2023, 07:45 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,405 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Did you ever get your 914 going? I remember it was carbureted, then megasquirt, then jack rabe helped you with it. Where is it now... Its been a whole journey. Yeah, been driving it all over the easy coast since 2017 with the Megasquirt motor. Playing with the tune the entire time, becasue you can do the with MS, and it suits my need to tinker with stuff. And then a friend started talking about a new motor he was going to get from PMB and I got some major FOMO and also had a little money burning a hole in my pocket. So I put a new 2258 fuel injected engine from PMB in my 914. My (now about perfectly tuned and good running) 2056 got sold. The 2258 is still in break in (only 50 miles on it yet, going to put about 300 on it this weekend if plans hold) but its amazing. Everything feels like I'm one gear lower compared to the 2056 - and my 2056 was NOT a slouch either... My 914 could probably keep up with a modern mini-van in a drag race now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Joking aside, the new 2258 in my 914 likely has about the same power as the CIS 2.7 I want to put in the bus. It took time to get, but the 914 really just flies with it. Were it not for the bus project, I'd be welding the steel flares I have for the 914 on this spring and going 5 lug. But right now I'll just have to content myself with driving the 914 while the bus continues its restoration. Zach |
Maltese Falcon |
May 11 2023, 08:13 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,620 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
'85 Doka' with a sb 350" Chevy + g50 5speed is a whole different story
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JmuRiz |
Jul 25 2023, 07:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,414 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Zach, any interest in SC grind Elgin 3 bearing cams for your 2.7. I might know a guy with a pair…and some spare cis pistons if you ever need any.
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flat4guy |
Jul 25 2023, 07:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 442 Joined: 10-October 16 From: nor cal Member No.: 20,484 Region Association: Northern California |
A few years ago at the VW Porsche treffen in California a guy had put a Porsche 6 in his double cab - but he flipped it around and it was under the bed mid engine style. I'll look for pics.
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flat4guy |
Jul 25 2023, 08:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 442 Joined: 10-October 16 From: nor cal Member No.: 20,484 Region Association: Northern California |
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Chris H. |
Jul 25 2023, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,023 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is an interesting syncro/996 Carrera 4 project…been for sale for years. HUGE project to say the least…
syncro project |
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