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| mzapisek |
 Nov 4 2022, 06:45 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 10-June 04 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 2,188 Region Association: North East States 
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Have just completed a refresh of my 1.7 motor. Have engine on stand and all tins mounted. Ready to mate back to the tranny. Question is whether its easier to mount the heat exchangers and muffler while on the stand and install as one unit?
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| DRPHIL914 |
Nov 4 2022, 07:01 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,766 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States
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just my 2cents worth, i've had my motor out a couple times and ihave taken it out and put it back in both ways, and it seemed easier to install it all as one unit if you have the proper jack under it. I think you have an easier time getting the heat exchangers or headers on the motor when its out than laying on your back under the car to do that.
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| jhynesrockmtn |
Nov 4 2022, 07:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 418 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I just did this and installed the exhaust once the engine/trans was back in the car. I have a lift though. Not sure what your situation is. You can't spin the motor on the stand with the exhaust mounted so it was easier for me to do it later.
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| barefoot |
Nov 4 2022, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,273 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States
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If you're on an engine stand, easy to install H/E's there. I ran the engine before installing & re-torued the H/E's then
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| bbrock |
Nov 4 2022, 11:23 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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I'd agree it is probably a little easier installing HEs while the engine is on a stand, but would say it is splitting hairs. With a clean engine, exhaust studs in good condition, and HE pipes trued up into a flat plane so they mate perfectly with the exhaust ports, installing from under the car is not a hard job at all. Take away any of those condition and it can be a miserable job.
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| roundtwo |
Nov 4 2022, 01:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 9-February 20 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 23,905 Region Association: Central California
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A cautionary tale...if mounting the HE while the the engine is on the stand..
Make sure they are absolutely clean on the inside before rotation of the engine on the stand. It's super tempting to rotate the bottom of the engine up to face the ceiling for easy access the HE fasteners. Even minute crud can make its way out of the HE into the exhaust ports of the heads with the help of gravity. If you go that route, just be aware how much you rotate the engine on the stand and all will be good. |
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| 930cabman |
Nov 4 2022, 04:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,058 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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As far as I know the heat exchangers must be installed after the axels. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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| r_towle |
Nov 4 2022, 05:11 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Nov 4 2022, 06:18 PM)  As far as I know the heat exchangers must be installed after the axels. Please correct me if I am wrong. Nope Engine, trans, heat exchangers, exhaust are all removed and installed together ( can be, but not required) Axles stay in car mounted to wheel hub. |
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| r_towle |
Nov 4 2022, 05:13 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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I have done this both ways….but it’s harder to move the engine around and never put weight on the heat exchangers while getting it off the lift to put on the trans , so I tend to leave them off and install when in the car…but you can do it either way
Or, engine does fit well on a milk crate with enough room to install trans |
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| Tjmrfe |
Nov 4 2022, 09:02 PM
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NON IMPEDING RATIONE COGITATIONIS Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 10-April 15 From: Cornwall on Hudson, New York Member No.: 18,612 Region Association: North East States |
Just did this this past spring. Installed mine as one unit, was a little delicate. But made sense to me. I also had a an assistant when I was wiggling the motor in…good luck! Great stuff!
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| mzapisek |
Nov 6 2022, 09:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 10-June 04 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 2,188 Region Association: North East States
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I have a lift and the tangerine plate gonna go with trans and HE on in one shot.
Thanks for the replys. |
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