Shifter console leaking, Side shifter |
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Shifter console leaking, Side shifter |
930cabman |
Jan 19 2023, 05:54 AM
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r_towle |
Jan 22 2023, 01:03 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Ok, it is wicked cold and raw here.
I really need a huge shop heater….but the construction kerosene heater makes it tolerable. Of course the part in question has been in the parts cleaner soaking….so it is at 30 degrees to touch..awesome times. I learned two things. The o-ring around the housing was torn and mutilated. The shaft seal was 47 years old and no longer up to the task. I’m not convinced the “transmission gasket kit” has the right o-ring diameter, so I will do some deeper research on that. Not sure where yet. To pull the shaft seal I used a combination of a few steps. 1: tear out the rubber seal 2: take an old wood chisel and carefully put a cut in the metal top lip of the seal, without touching the housing 3: prying at that point still did nothing 4: map gas torch, heated up (it will catch on fire, there is still rubber and grease…be prepared 5: pry after heat and it popped out (after I put out the fires…. Nothing major) |
r_towle |
Jan 22 2023, 01:11 PM
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Montreal914 |
Jan 22 2023, 01:43 PM
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Perfect opportunity to convert the shifter console to a double supported bushing and U-joint linkage! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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r_towle |
Jan 22 2023, 01:51 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Perfect opportunity to convert the shifter console to a double supported bushing and U-joint linkage! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Nah, it’s a street car. When I have done this before, replacing the loose shifter console bushing with a bronze or brass on with much higher tolerances, along with the two cup bushings, seems to do the trick |
930cabman |
Jan 22 2023, 04:33 PM
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Perfect opportunity to convert the shifter console to a double supported bushing and U-joint linkage! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Nah, it’s a street car. When I have done this before, replacing the loose shifter console bushing with a bronze or brass on with much higher tolerances, along with the two cup bushings, seems to do the trick Victory, even in the freezing cold. The O ring was probably part of the leakage, what is the condition shaft where the seal rides? |
r_towle |
Jan 22 2023, 09:56 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Very slight side to side wiggle…
Not enough to concern me. The o-ring was crushed and damaged….so that did not help with the issue. It also had some classic yellow “used part” markings on it. Rich |
930cabman |
Jan 23 2023, 05:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,055 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
"Crushed and damaged" O ring would indicate to me it was not installed properly. Do you suspect it was also leaking from the seal?
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r_towle |
Jan 23 2023, 03:09 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
It was certainly leaking from the housing due to the o-ring
The drip was always coming from the tip of the shaft….so that seal was certainly done too. What I can’t believe is the tiny diameter of the o-ring versus the wide slot in the housing… Does anyone know the specs of the oem o-ring? |
r_towle |
Jan 24 2023, 02:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Drove up to my local dealer.
Pet2 lists the o-ring as 40mm x 1.5 mm I’m not convinced that is right (superseded part??) I will post some pics to show what I mean |
r_towle |
Jan 24 2023, 03:05 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
measured the housing groove, its 2.25mm
measure the o-ring...its 1.25 mm I just don't want this to leak again... Attached image(s) |
930cabman |
Jan 24 2023, 05:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,055 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
I was at my local bearing house today and picked up a couple new seals and a couple new O rings. I may add a small radius on the trans housing for the O ring to "ease" into it's home.
Mine was leaking at the seal, it sounds as yours was leaking at the O ring. Either way it's a leak I haven't looked too far but is the paper gasket readily available? if not it will not be too difficult to fabricate |
r_towle |
Jan 24 2023, 06:31 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
There is no paper gasket in any diagram I have seen
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930cabman |
Jan 24 2023, 06:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,055 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
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