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Axle, 914 V8 Axle Upgrade |
Mueller |
Aug 11 2005, 08:44 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
CV joints are better due to the angles involved....you'd also have to have a 2-piece axle with Universal joints or transmission input shafts that "floated" |
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bd1308 |
Aug 11 2005, 09:04 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
hmm... well it was worth a try anyway. parts are el cheapo...and survive tremendous loads. |
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Mueller |
Aug 11 2005, 09:07 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
i've broken them with small block Fords....nothing is bullet proof.... |
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bd1308 |
Aug 11 2005, 09:09 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
just seems like a good idea over here...
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bondo |
Aug 11 2005, 09:13 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
CV joints are a much better design. U joints wear out rather quickly. They also "normally" live between the trans and the final drive, so they see 1/4 to 1/3 the torque.
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bd1308 |
Aug 11 2005, 09:16 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
i agree...but a person just can't walk to FLAPS and buy a new CV axle for a 914 anymore....
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bondo |
Aug 11 2005, 09:21 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
You can still get them rebuilt, or upgrade to better CVs. I bet it's cheaper to upgrade CVs than to devise a ujoint setup. (remember, the length of the shafts changes with suspension movement.. Ujoints don't do that)
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Brett W |
Aug 11 2005, 09:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
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Mueller |
Aug 11 2005, 09:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
okay, then you'd have to pick a universal joint that will never go out of production and would be stocked "everywhere" with that logic.......does not matter what kind of car you drive..there will come a time when you have to special order parts....times change and so does the stock room at the auto store....besides, how often do CV's fail?? not very often......with cars this old, it's either have spares or deal with having to have parts delivered..... |
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bd1308 |
Aug 11 2005, 09:43 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
hmmm.....
i haven't really spent any time looking for universal joints.... i did find out that my flaps has rebuilt axles for 100 a piece... |
GS Guy |
Aug 12 2005, 06:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 243 Joined: 8-July 04 From: Columbia, MD Member No.: 2,325 Region Association: North East States |
Another axle option, not sure you guys may be aware of. Todd Francis at Precision Alloy Ltd. can modify standard stub shafts to make T2 CVs a bolt on deal. Fit a set of 33 spline SAW axles and you're good to go. The SAW axles are supposed to be a bit more "springy" than standard, providing a little more "give" for absorbing torque.
This isn't the lowest dollar solution, but it would get rid of adapters, provide a stronger readily available 100mm CV and a little more give in the axle dept. Todd did my 914 trans output stubs for about $100 - excellent work and delivered with a nice and new looking black oxide finish. I don't see why he couldn't do the same with the outboard stub axles. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) |
neo914-6 |
Aug 13 2005, 12:47 AM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
I thought it was ok to run the shorter axles, is Brad's info only applicable to racing? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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Loser_Cruiser |
Aug 13 2005, 01:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 4-April 05 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 3,873 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where can you get a hydrolic clutch setup or does it have to be custom?
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SirAndy |
Aug 13 2005, 04:22 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,618 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
not good unless your shock travel for the street is about 1" or so and you're never ever going to hit a bump ... brads quote: "We have raced the cars for years without the spacers." on a racecar, you don't see as much shock travel, plus the road surface on a track is usually less bumpy than the average CA highway ... i wouldn't recommend to run a axle that is 1" too short on the street. for obvious reasons. but hey, it's your car! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy |
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Type 4 Unleashed |
Aug 15 2005, 11:59 PM
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CREATIVE TYPE lV ENGINEERING Group: Retired Members Posts: 787 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Aliso Viejo, ca Member No.: 2,231 Region Association: None |
Hi, Gary welcome to the club. And Aaron, I just wanted to say, very Logical statments concerning beefier axels and cv's and tranny's. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) And, as for universal joints, couldn't keep them in, the mid engined SBC (302) powered corvair, and when a U joint went, that drive shaft would scare the piss out of the dead, and when it stoped flopping around in the car, the car would drop where it stoped and wouldn't roll any more. |
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bd1308 |
Aug 16 2005, 04:04 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
thanks for the insight....
I didn't think about the actual stresses involved... |
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