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gnomefabtech
post Jan 26 2023, 06:26 PM
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I took a break from the 914 thing but now I'm back after a few year putting a barn found 73 back together. I modded some stock seats to have side bolsters and now that I put them in I notice that the driver's seat isn't really in line with the steering wheel but off to the right a bit. Stock seats, stock mounts. Is this normal? My last 914 has aftermarket seats so I don't have a point of reference. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Jan 26 2023, 06:27 PM
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Also. How do I post a picture here?
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post Jan 26 2023, 06:55 PM
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That's normal. It threw me for a loop, too, when I replaced my floor pans and then put the seat back in. I thought I had misaligned the brackets that the seat rails attach to when I welded them in.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:05 PM
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I’ve owned a 914 since I was 16. Sitting in one always feels normal to me and I didn’t get the “offset” until someone pointed it out to me. Since it was an early car, I’m also used to reaching for the wiper switch on the dash.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:32 PM
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Part of the crash safety engineering that was ahead of the times.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:34 PM
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'll do more stretching on the right side.

Still can't post a pic of my seats though. I'm getting some error when I upload the image.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:45 PM
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Pretty much all vehicles have an offset. Some more, some less.

It depends on the vehicle architecture. Vehicles with a tall transmission tunnel and or wide wheel wells are typically the worst.

Although the 914 has a low tunnel, the front wheel wells intrude on the passenger compartment quite a lot. This drives the pedals toward the center line. After that the steering wheel and the seat just follow.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Jan 26 2023, 05:34 PM) *
Still can't post a pic of my seats though.

Try the nailed FAQ thread, it has info about adding pictures.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=94568
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:55 PM
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This might explain it better



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post Jan 26 2023, 08:44 PM
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Not only the steering wheel, but the peddles are skewed towards the center of the car and not in line with the seat.
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post Jan 26 2023, 09:21 PM
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post Jan 27 2023, 12:39 AM
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the skew whiff thing is nothing to complain about left hand drive.

wait till you have to sit skewed in a RHD beetle, type 3 or worst of all a 914.
thats when you really sweat the clutch pedal, the steering wheel and the seat as you do your conversion of a "never made" rhd 914.

it kind of works in beetles and 911s. nice and narrow between the seats.
a 914 is so wiiiiiiiiiide.
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post Jan 27 2023, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(gnomefabtech @ Jan 26 2023, 07:26 PM) *

Hello All-

I took a break from the 914 thing but now I'm back after a few year putting a barn found 73 back together. I modded some stock seats to have side bolsters and now that I put them in I notice that the driver's seat isn't really in line with the steering wheel but off to the right a bit. Stock seats, stock mounts. Is this normal? My last 914 has aftermarket seats so I don't have a point of reference. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Jan 27 2023, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 26 2023, 10:39 PM) *

the skew whiff thing is nothing to complain about left hand drive.

wait till you have to sit skewed in a RHD beetle, type 3 or worst of all a 914.
thats when you really sweat the clutch pedal, the steering wheel and the seat as you do your conversion of a "never made" rhd 914.

it kind of works in beetles and 911s. nice and narrow between the seats.
a 914 is so wiiiiiiiiiide.
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I can't even imagine trying to shift gears with my Left hand in a RHD car of any type!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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post Jan 27 2023, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jan 26 2023, 05:55 PM) *

This might explain it better


That diagram is pretty interesting. Thanks for posting.
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post Jan 27 2023, 10:59 AM
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My image was too big before. So here are the seats I "made". Don't zoom in too far because I am not a pro upholstery person and I sewed the bolster sides myself. That said, they are way better than stock seats.
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post Jan 27 2023, 01:46 PM
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The "angled to center" implementation seems especially prominent on mid-engined vehicles for packaging reasons, etc.

I'll never forget the first time I sat in and drove my friends 1975 Dino 308 GT4 . . .the skew was initially quite disturbing.
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