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| Rrrockhound |
 Jan 28 2023, 11:30 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Delaware, OH Member No.: 5,213 Region Association: None 
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Is it safe to take out the engine with the car on a lift or will it (the car) be too front heavy and unstable when the engine is out?
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| BeatNavy |
Jan 28 2023, 11:36 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,924 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Can't speak to your specific setup, or how you lift your car, but I remove the engine on mine using my scissor lift all the time. No issues. If you're putting a lot of torque on the front with the engine out, you can run something like a ratchet strap across through the door gaps/sills for insurance, I suppose.
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| NARP74 |
Jan 28 2023, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Talking about on a two post I assume?
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| Rrrockhound |
Jan 28 2023, 11:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Delaware, OH Member No.: 5,213 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Jan 28 2023, 12:40 PM)  Talking about on a two post I assume? Correct. Years ago I did it on jack stands but this is my first time doing it with the lift. |
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| NARP74 |
Jan 28 2023, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If the gas tank is full and the spread on the arms is narrow, you might have an issue if like BeatNavy said you are really torqueing on something. Some will put a post of some kind up front just in case..
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 28 2023, 01:35 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,416 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I have had a 2 post lift for years, and I have NEVER had an issue with pulling an engine on a 914. In fact, it makes it easier. I just unhook everything but the engine mounts, lower it down and set the engine/transmission on jackstands. Then I unbold the motor mounts and lift the car off the engine.
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| Cairo94507 |
Jan 28 2023, 02:03 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,716 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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You could always place a jack under the nose or strap the rear of the car down if you are concerned- never hurts to be extra careful with cars on lifts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| mepstein |
Jan 28 2023, 03:33 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,244 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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No issue on two post but I still use a deadman (like Cairo suggested) under the front so it’s not tippy. It can be made of 2x4. It’s just there to steady the car, not hold it up. Even a stack of milk crates will work. Just don’t forget it and lower the car or you will have problems.
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| Rrrockhound |
Jan 28 2023, 03:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 30-November 05 From: Delaware, OH Member No.: 5,213 Region Association: None
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| wonkipop |
Jan 28 2023, 03:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,249 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(Rrrockhound @ Jan 28 2023, 03:35 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) at least no one was under it. ------ i do get nervous with my front wheel drive front engined renault on the two pole. i do the @mepstein 4x2 trick. |
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| 930cabman |
Jan 28 2023, 03:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,000 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Rrrockhound @ Jan 28 2023, 04:35 PM) Avoid at all cost, that's messy. So long as no one was hurt I use my scissors often and have built a rolling "test stand" for firing the engine/trans prior to installing and rolling the assembly around the shop. |
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| mlindner |
Jan 28 2023, 04:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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When I install my six on a scissor lift I added six bags of 60 lb. to the front trunk because it was cantilevered to much to the rear. Work fine.
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| mepstein |
Jan 28 2023, 06:00 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,244 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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We do lots of 911 engine drops and installs on a two post lift. A couple a week. Never an issue. Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics. If you don’t, just get someone experienced to give you training. I trust lifts. I hate jack stands.
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| GregAmy |
Jan 28 2023, 06:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,268 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 28 2023, 02:35 PM) I have had a 2 post lift for years, and I have NEVER had an issue with pulling an engine on a 914. Ditto. I use the stock four jack points and no issues with numerous engine drops onto my toolbox. - GA  |
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| Type 47 |
Jan 28 2023, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 780 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None
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Just installed engine today using the Tangerine Racing jack plate. I highly recommend using it. I was skeptical about the cost but after using it I would highly recommend using it.
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| Superhawk996 |
Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics. Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| wonkipop |
Jan 29 2023, 02:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,249 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics. Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) they were in the corvette mode. dynamically unstable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| 930cabman |
Jan 29 2023, 07:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,000 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 29 2023, 03:17 AM) QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics. Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) they were in the corvette mode. dynamically unstable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) +1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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