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> Settled - Side Valences are affixed with plastic button head rivets, 'Rocker panel' rivets
JeffBowlsby
post Mar 11 2023, 01:15 PM
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We know of two docmented original 914s, both have side valances attached with plastic buttonhead rivets, not aluminum rivets.

Black rivets for cars with black valances
Clear rivets for the 1974 LE cars with the yellow or orange valances

PET also only lists the plastic button head rivets.

All the photos of 914s with aluminum rivets are not original, are commonly available and have been replaced at some point.

Thanks to George Hussey, Steve Gaglione (2nd owner of very orignal Sahara Beige) and Alberto Favilla (original owner) and to Rich Daunhauer (914Werke) for their knowledge.


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post Mar 18 2023, 10:27 PM
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as a comment to @JeffBowlsby .

now mr b.
you do realise your argument can equally be applied to owners having taken rockers off early on years and year ago and having replaced the rivets with "correct" plastic rivets.
thinking metal rivets were wrong. these cars might have had rockers on and off a half a dozen times in their life up until now. talking 74s here.

S.G. 74 car in originality section is illustrative of that.
there is a car that is held up as the benchmark of originality.
yet the owner admits he restored the rocker panel rivets on the advice of dr. 914.
and those rivets were not on it when he obtained it from the original first owner.
they were metal. and he though they were original. and he states also that he believes the 914 he bought new back in the 70s had metal rivets.

so its a funny one.

dr. 914 is not infallible.
he was incorrect about the distributor vac hose set up on 74 1.8s.
he had it down as a production date change.
it wasn't.
on the + side, he is not wrong about much.
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JeffBowlsby   Settled - Side Valences are affixed with plastic button head rivets   Mar 11 2023, 01:15 PM
StarBear   Yay! Thanks, Jeff! :D   Mar 11 2023, 02:19 PM
KELTY360   That seems premature and arbitrary to make an abso...   Mar 11 2023, 02:42 PM
scallyk9   That seems premature and arbitrary to make an abs...   Mar 11 2023, 05:20 PM
914werke   :lol:   Mar 11 2023, 03:14 PM
flyer86d   We know of two docmented original 914s, both have...   Mar 11 2023, 03:40 PM
DaveB   The Group 8 Shop Manual calls them out as plastic ...   Mar 11 2023, 04:51 PM
technicalninja   My 75 1.8 32k car had black plastic rivets on all ...   Mar 11 2023, 04:59 PM
StarBear   Everything older than 30 is usually super molest...   Mar 11 2023, 06:13 PM
fixer34   And into the fray we go... 1970 factory -6, silve...   Mar 11 2023, 05:06 PM
wonkipop   yes - plenty of examples of 75 in my L jet files w...   Mar 11 2023, 05:26 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Mar 11 2023, 06:11 PM
wonkipop   i hate to throw another worm in the can of doubt w...   Mar 11 2023, 08:12 PM
rgalla9146   Late cars with black plastic thresholds had black ...   Mar 11 2023, 08:26 PM
wonkipop   another remarkable 74 from mr. b's website. no...   Mar 11 2023, 08:36 PM
Van B   Mine is definitely as Jeff described in the origin...   Mar 11 2023, 08:39 PM
wonkipop   Mine is definitely as Jeff described in the origi...   Mar 11 2023, 08:42 PM
Van B   Mine are without a doubt original and I was the fi...   Mar 12 2023, 09:33 AM
Mikey914   I usually have these made up in matching sets, but...   Mar 12 2023, 10:30 AM
914werke   I know this is a complete CW thing, & wasn...   Mar 12 2023, 11:27 AM
Craigers17   I know the is a complete CW thing, & wasn...   Mar 12 2023, 11:39 AM
Montreal914   ...which leads me to ask. :) What should be the ...   Mar 12 2023, 11:39 AM
davep   I am a bit surprised by the heated discussion. Bac...   Mar 12 2023, 11:51 AM
914werke   "this seems like a lot of mindless minutiae...   Mar 12 2023, 12:01 PM
wonkipop   "this seems like a lot of mindless minutia...   Mar 12 2023, 12:55 PM
Van B   With galvanic corrosion, aluminum will lose out o...   Mar 12 2023, 02:21 PM
Montreal914   Thanks Van B! :)   Mar 14 2023, 08:01 AM
930cabman   I have used aluminum with success and I'm sure...   Mar 14 2023, 01:27 PM
zoomCat   I have used aluminum with success and I'm sur...   Mar 14 2023, 05:48 PM
r_towle   I used to read a lot of threads on the 356 forums,...   Mar 14 2023, 04:56 PM
Front yard mechanic   Gee I thought liquid nails and duct tape was origi...   Mar 14 2023, 06:30 PM
nivekdodge   Are there any current members or people sitting on...   Mar 15 2023, 10:04 AM
DBF   Hate to beat a dead horse, BUT - why are there so ...   Mar 18 2023, 04:44 PM
Van B   My car had painted pop rivets in the rockers and p...   Mar 18 2023, 05:01 PM
wonkipop   My car had painted pop rivets in the rockers and ...   Mar 18 2023, 05:10 PM
Van B   The ziebart runs across the underside of the sill ...   Mar 18 2023, 07:14 PM
wonkipop   The ziebart runs across the underside of the sill...   Mar 18 2023, 08:29 PM
Van B   I’m honestly not sure what the debate is here si...   Mar 18 2023, 08:54 PM
wonkipop   I’m honestly not sure what the debate is here s...   Mar 18 2023, 10:16 PM
JeffBowlsby   Anyone who knows anything about these cars removes...   Mar 18 2023, 09:15 PM
rgalla9146   Anyone who knows anything about these cars remove...   Mar 18 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop   as a comment to @JeffBowlsby . now mr b. you do ...   Mar 18 2023, 10:27 PM
Van B   Oh man… I really misunderstood what was going on...   Mar 19 2023, 08:50 AM
sixnotfour   My Dads 76 , had Dealer installed... Nardi Steerin...   Mar 19 2023, 09:55 AM
914werke   Only on the internet :wacko: :screwy:   Mar 19 2023, 11:25 AM
wonkipop   Only on the internet :wacko: :screwy: you sta...   Mar 19 2023, 02:41 PM
rgalla9146   Early salvage parts. Some broken some good. ...   Mar 19 2023, 02:25 PM
Superhawk996   Come on guys - the heater hose discussion went to ...   Mar 19 2023, 02:45 PM
DBF   Only half way there - well let's get going...   Mar 20 2023, 05:49 PM
Mikey914   My 75 had black aluminum ones. :popcorn:   Mar 21 2023, 02:57 PM
ClayPerrine   :deadhorse:   Mar 22 2023, 01:20 PM
76-914   Well, I should stay the Hell out of this since I...   Mar 22 2023, 01:40 PM
TJB/914   Well, I should stay the Hell out of this since I...   Mar 22 2023, 05:27 PM
gereed75   OK. So I am sold that the correct rivets is the wh...   Jul 27 2023, 10:18 PM
Shivers   My 72’ has had the same white plastic rivets ...   Jul 28 2023, 05:36 AM
white1975   all plastic original owner of my car   Jul 28 2023, 09:30 AM
friethmiller   Ok, now I feel the need to drill out all my alumin...   Jul 28 2023, 09:42 AM
Root_Werks   I have aluminum side rockers and don't need no...   Jul 28 2023, 10:14 AM


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