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> Settled - Side Valences are affixed with plastic button head rivets, 'Rocker panel' rivets
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Mar 18 2023, 08:54 PM) *

I’m honestly not sure what the debate is here since this thread appears to start mid debate. I have black plastic thresholds with black plastic push pin rivets and (had) rocker panels with black metal rivets.

All holes appear ~3.4mm. I measured six of them on both sides of the car.


the debate is that all 914s had plastic rivets along the top of the rocker panel.
never metal.

nothing to do with the the ones on the threshold plates.

you piped in with an earlier remark that the rocker panels on your 74 were held on by black plastic rivets. and they had not been off.
turns out your earlier comment was not as precise as it seemed.
they are indeed metal on yours.
and you seem to have reasonable grounds to say they were not off. maybe.

which seems to match a whole lot of other 74s but not other years.

75s def had black plastic rivets on the rockers it seems.
and early cars had clear plastic (or some have said white plastic).

others have commented they were only one way the whole way.
not so.

my own view now is coming back to metal on the 74s.
there seems to be some evidence for it.
74s that is.

not talking other years.
couldn't give a flying f$%k about other years Van.
only have 1974 tunnel vision on a narrow gauge railroad track when it comes to a 914.
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post Mar 18 2023, 10:27 PM
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as a comment to @JeffBowlsby .

now mr b.
you do realise your argument can equally be applied to owners having taken rockers off early on years and year ago and having replaced the rivets with "correct" plastic rivets.
thinking metal rivets were wrong. these cars might have had rockers on and off a half a dozen times in their life up until now. talking 74s here.

S.G. 74 car in originality section is illustrative of that.
there is a car that is held up as the benchmark of originality.
yet the owner admits he restored the rocker panel rivets on the advice of dr. 914.
and those rivets were not on it when he obtained it from the original first owner.
they were metal. and he though they were original. and he states also that he believes the 914 he bought new back in the 70s had metal rivets.

so its a funny one.

dr. 914 is not infallible.
he was incorrect about the distributor vac hose set up on 74 1.8s.
he had it down as a production date change.
it wasn't.
on the + side, he is not wrong about much.
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post Mar 19 2023, 08:50 AM
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Oh man… I really misunderstood what was going on here and the debate. I took it as aluminum vs metal in the rockers.

I somehow missed it that claim was plastic throughout.
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post Mar 19 2023, 09:55 AM
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My Dads 76 , had Dealer installed... Nardi Steering Wheel, Riviera Wheels and Porsche Rocker Panels,,, The Dealer used Pop Rivets..
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post Mar 19 2023, 11:25 AM
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post Mar 19 2023, 02:25 PM
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Early salvage parts. Some broken some good.
Shown for color reference.
Second pic shows color difference. White / clear
The larger ones in second pic are from block off plate when no speakers were
fitted in speaker housing......if I remember correctly.
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post Mar 19 2023, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(914werke @ Mar 19 2023, 11:25 AM) *


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post Mar 19 2023, 02:45 PM
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post Mar 20 2023, 05:49 PM
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Only half way there - well let's get going!

An aircraft mechanic friend of mine said it is easy to see when rivets are replaced on a plane - they never looks quite factory. I've noticed that on cars as well - one can often tell when someone has removed and replaced something on a car - it never looks quite factory. Every photo we are seeing of aluminum riveted valances sure looks good - like the factory did it - as opposed to someone trying to put the valance on themselves with a pop-rivet gun in one hand while trying to hold the valance with the other.
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post Mar 21 2023, 02:57 PM
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post Mar 22 2023, 01:20 PM
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Well, I should stay the Hell out of this since I've defiled a few 914's.............but FWIW, my one owner 76 had black plastic rivets and my 2 owner 73 had white plastic rivets. Judging by the amount of dirt lodged behind and beneath I'm pretty sure I was the 1st one in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Mar 22 2023, 03:40 PM) *

Well, I should stay the Hell out of this since I've defiled a few 914's.............but FWIW, my one owner 76 had black plastic rivets and my 2 owner 73 had white plastic rivets. Judging by the amount of dirt lodged behind and beneath I'm pretty sure I was the 1st one in there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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Black Rivets are factory correct. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
I purchased some 20 some years ago when available in black.
I understand new ones are now clear/white from a new supplier.
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OK. So I am sold that the correct rivets is the white plastic push ones for my early 70 car as pictured above by Regala

People say they are available.

Anyone know where?
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My 72’ has had the same white plastic rivets since I got it in 82’. I’ve seen black on the years that had the black plastic thresholds and the white on earlier cars with the aluminum like mine.
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post Jul 28 2023, 09:30 AM
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all plastic original owner of my car
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Ok, now I feel the need to drill out all my aluminum rivets and replace with plastic! Oh hell! Why not? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Jul 28 2023, 10:14 AM
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I have aluminum side rockers and don't need no stinkin' rivets, plastic or otherwise.

So that means I win!

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