What went wrong?, it was running great and then not at all |
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What went wrong?, it was running great and then not at all |
Type 47 |
Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None |
so we put the original 62k engine back in that had not had the distributor removed. Adjusted the valves (again after we put about 10 miles on it) we rebuilt the Webbers and it fired up. We did some timing and tweaking on the carbs.
It ran OK but a little shy of perfect. I replaced the wires and it seemed to improve it but idled a little high around 1,200. My son came over to work on it the next day, but I wasn't home. All of a sudden, it won't even run. we swapped distributers (both 009's) with the parts car, then swapped points (adjusted to 0.016). no improvement. tested spark to all four cylinders. I seems like it's really out of timing but we didn't change it much. (except for the fact that we took the distributor out) my son says we have spark, too much fuel, and not enough air. What do we do next????? |
Dave_Darling |
Mar 20 2023, 09:58 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,062 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Distributor. Check that distributor. Do not f**k with the carbs, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Make sure that the distributor is in the right place. Rotate the engine until both valves on #1 are slack, then check where the distributor rotor is pointing. If it's not pointing at the distributor cap terminal that is connected to the #1 cylinder, it's wrong and the car will have one heck of a time starting.
Verify this first. Then make sure that the plug wires follow the firing order as you go around the distributor: 1-4-3-2. If you get the wires wrong, the car either won't start or will run like s**t. Static timing is basically done by turning the engine by hand until it is at TDC for #1, and turning the distributor so the points are just opening (or could be just closing; I forget which triggers the spark!). Forget 7 degrees or whatever, setting it to TDC will make it close enough for the car to start. Verify the spark, make sure your distributor is in the right place, then set the static timing so you're somewhere close. The car should be able to run at that point, unless the fuel or the compression is messed up somehow. --DD |
Superhawk996 |
Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,544 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Distributor. Check that distributor. Do not f**k with the carbs, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Make sure that the distributor is in the right place. Rotate the engine until both valves on #1 are slack, then check where the distributor rotor is pointing. If it's not pointing at the distributor cap terminal that is connected to the #1 cylinder, it's wrong and the car will have one heck of a time starting. Verify this first. Then make sure that the plug wires follow the firing order as you go around the distributor: 1-4-3-2. If you get the wires wrong, the car either won't start or will run like s**t. Static timing is basically done by turning the engine by hand until it is at TDC for #1, and turning the distributor so the points are just opening (or could be just closing; I forget which triggers the spark!). Forget 7 degrees or whatever, setting it to TDC will make it close enough for the car to start. Verify the spark, make sure your distributor is in the right place, then set the static timing so you're somewhere close. The car should be able to run at that point, unless the fuel or the compression is messed up somehow. --DD (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I sort of assumed you have done this when you said you have it running And had verified timing. Note: the moment when the points OPEN is when the spark is triggered. |
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