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> The two bleeders
emerygt350
post Mar 17 2023, 07:38 PM
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I just popped on my newly remastered rear brake calipers from PMB and was wondering if there was a point to the lower bleeder? I only ever bothered with the top bleeder before but now that it's bone dry I was wondering if that might be why the second bleeder exists? I will be bleeding the brakes tomorrow morning.
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post Mar 18 2023, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 18 2023, 11:49 AM) *


Disagree. You have to look at this from a manufacturing perspective.

Take a look at the inboard side casting, it is symmetric. The casting is not handed until the machining operations are done for the handbrake.

Having lived and worked in a manufacturing environment, my best educated guess is that the piston bore and the bleed screws were machined before the park brake bore.

This allows the casting to remain unhanded for easier inventory management. Since ATE was suppling these calipers to other OEMs there would be an advantage to not having handed calipers until as late in the machining process as possible.

In this day and age, no one would do two matching operations and provide two bleed screws. It amounts to giving away money. But back in the 70s before computer inventory management and just in time delivery of parts there would be a great deal of value in minimizing handed parts.


I'm in agreement with this. They made one casting each for the inside parts of both front and rear calipers to reduce tooling costs.

Now, with the information that Davep provided regarding servicing, this should have been included with ALL caliper designs.
Not just Porsche ones!

My Dad once had a 964 S4 that had been heavily modified. It had the Porsche "cup" suspension on it and the "Big Red" brakes. Whoever installed these did not get a matching "kit" as it had two front left calipers and those puppies only had one bleeder.
The right-side bleeder was pointing down which made it impossible to bleed unless you knocked it loose, stuck a piece of wood between the pads. and held the caliper bleeder up for the bleeding process.
That worked fine but it was a bit of a PIA to do.
Had they had the dual bleeder set up it wouldn't have been a problem...
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emerygt350   The two bleeders   Mar 17 2023, 07:38 PM
StarBear   Good question. Curious, too. Dual bleeders on late...   Mar 17 2023, 08:02 PM
Superhawk996   Dual bleeders facilitate the part being used on ei...   Mar 17 2023, 10:32 PM
iankarr   On one car I had a harder time than usual getting ...   Mar 17 2023, 11:59 PM
davep   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing to...   Mar 18 2023, 07:21 AM
930cabman   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 08:11 AM
Superhawk996   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 10:49 AM
davep   The casting is not handed until the machining ope...   Mar 18 2023, 07:10 PM
technicalninja   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 07:57 AM
technicalninja   Disagree. You have to look at this from a manufa...   Mar 18 2023, 11:25 AM
emerygt350   Shoot, wish I had read Dave's comment earlier....   Mar 18 2023, 01:55 PM
Superhawk996   I think the one thing we can agree on is that thes...   Mar 18 2023, 08:04 PM
Van914   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think t...   Mar 19 2023, 04:15 AM
Superhawk996   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think ...   Mar 19 2023, 06:52 AM
davep   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think ...   Mar 19 2023, 08:04 AM
Krieger   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add th...   Mar 19 2023, 11:24 AM
Superhawk996   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add t...   Mar 19 2023, 12:11 PM
Krieger   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add ...   Mar 19 2023, 06:41 PM
zoomCat   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add t...   Mar 19 2023, 12:56 PM
Superhawk996   Nope - I’m wrong on a casting common to all thre...   Mar 19 2023, 12:34 PM
PatMc   Nope - I’m wrong on a casting common to all thr...   Mar 20 2023, 08:48 AM
Krieger   And some casting variations with mine. @Superhawk...   Mar 19 2023, 06:58 PM
Superhawk996   Thank you for the alternate views. Nice score fo...   Mar 19 2023, 09:43 PM


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