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peteinjp
post Jun 10 2023, 12:36 AM
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I have the yellow HELLA TN1 TN2 units and one lens is cracked. They are very cool but for me serve no real purpose. I am thinking to get a new lens but- what i really need is more light for corners at night. I don’t drive much at night but when i do get out of the twisties it’s hard to see around a corner. Due the driving light lenses actually function well in this location?

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post Jun 10 2023, 06:06 AM
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Euro driving lights. These are reproduction. Halogen bulbs but you could convert to single LED bulb.


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post Jun 10 2023, 06:31 AM
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Clear T4 IIRC with LED bulb. Better visibility but check color temp of bulb for correct illumination. I had LED but also don’t drive much at night and liked the warmer color of the filament bulbs. The LED highlights made much more of a difference to me.
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post Jun 10 2023, 06:44 AM
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Pictured is my 6 done by PMB Performance and I wanted some serious light. As you can see in picture the light is extreme!

LED blubs did the trick, but I remember my 1974 2.0 back in 1980 that I had some rectangular fog lights that filled the full opening of the bumper and the lens’s where concave and they spread the light super wide and on the tight turns of Mulholland in Los Angeles as they light up right where you were going. I think they were something like a Hella 155 but like I said concave rectangle.


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post Jun 10 2023, 06:49 AM
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@peteinjp - I would reach out to Jerry (Spoke) who makes the outstanding LED lights for our cars and order a set of his LED driving lights- they are very bright. In fact, if you have not, please consider converting all of your exterior lighting to Jerry's LED's. They are plug and play and bring modern lighting to our cars without any modifications required. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jun 10 2023, 11:35 AM
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I run the Pilot lights like what @914werke sells. They go for $99 a set shipped(not sure about shipping overseas). H3 bulbs are definitely an upgrade from the stock bulbs. Nice and bright on the mountain roads in the Cascades.

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post Jun 10 2023, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(sportlicherFahrer @ Jun 11 2023, 06:35 AM) *

I run the Pilot lights like what @914werke sells. They go for $99 a set shipped(not sure about shipping overseas). H3 bulbs are definitely an upgrade from the stock bulbs. Nice and bright on the mountain roads in the Cascades.

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I have the same,found them to be pretty bright ,haven't tryed H3 lamps as yet but may do so ,can't remember what the lamps are that came with them.
These are well made but I replaced the bolts in the brackets with stainless ones,only other thing is if you break a lenses you are screwed unlike the original foglights
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post Jun 10 2023, 02:21 PM
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I just installed these same Driving lights/fog lights that Rich sells. I opted to add the LED bulbs. If I remember, I'll try to snap a pic tonight after it gets dark.

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You probably wouldn't have had to take off the bumper, but I've been "Jones'n" to do a very rough mock up of my fiberglass bumper and air dam, so I pulled it all off...needs to be painted anyways.

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post Jun 10 2023, 10:48 PM
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@craigers17

Your front bumper and air dam mock-up is looking good. Is that from GT Racing or another source?

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post Jun 11 2023, 04:24 AM
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@craigers17

Your front bumper and air dam mock-up is looking good. Is that from GT Racing or another source?

Thanks - Joe



Sorry Joe, I'm not sure. I bought them both used from private parties. There are no markings on them.
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post Jun 12 2023, 02:30 PM
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I replaced my Pilots with these. I had tried to put LEDs in the Pilots, but the reflectors aren't made for them so they were just bright spots that didn't light the road. I'm really happy with this setup.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YC4FX4V?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

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post Jun 13 2023, 02:16 AM
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Thanks everyone. more options that I thought! I'll dig in and do some research.

@burton73 what housings/lenses did PMB use?

And for the guys with the Pilots- are they brighter than the stock lights? Price is good for sure but the non replaceable lens kinda cancels that out.

At the moment I'm thinking of getting a set of the clear driving lenses with the very light fluting like the ones listed on eBay above- for my existing housings. Any leads on just the lens?



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post Jun 13 2023, 02:59 AM
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Not 914 Specific, but interesting background if sticking with filament for any reason

I followed the AC guidance for my Sprinter camper just before a 3500 mile European road trip. Significant improvement at night over 18 month old old stock bulbs

Also note if searching these seem to be no longer branded as GE but the same thing / same factory

http://www.audettecollection.com/a-guide-to-h1-h4-bulbs/
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post Jun 13 2023, 03:17 AM
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Oh- and just to be clear (pun intended...) I'm looking for more light off the sides of the road- more throw than your typical fog but not as narrow as a long distance lamp. I have a pair of Hella 400o cornering lamps on the roof of one of my other cars and they are amazing- but overkill and illegal.... I have them set up with a separate switch but to only be able to be switched with the high beams on.

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post Jun 13 2023, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Jun 10 2023, 04:06 AM) *

Euro driving lights. These are reproduction. Halogen bulbs but you could convert to single LED bulb.

So I have a bottom line question, is there an LED "bulb" replacement for the original fog lamp housings? I would like to be able to use them for daylight running lights without major deviation from original appearance on my almost all original 73 driver. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jun 13 2023, 10:21 AM
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we sell reproductions of the original 914 h-3 with the optional led lightbulbs
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post Jun 13 2023, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(peteinjp @ Jun 13 2023, 01:16 AM) *

Thanks everyone. more options that I thought! I'll dig in and do some research.

@burton73 what housings/lenses did PMB use?

And for the guys with the Pilots- are they brighter than the stock lights? Price is good for sure but the non replaceable lens kinda cancels that out.

At the moment I'm thinking of getting a set of the clear driving lenses with the very light fluting like the ones listed on eBay above- for my existing housings. Any leads on just the lens?



Pete



Pete,

I couple of pix. Factory fog lens.

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post Jun 13 2023, 01:01 PM
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Just here to add my obligatory "those are not driving lights" comment.

Check your local laws, in Germany it is illegal to use your fog lights as driving lights.
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post Jun 13 2023, 02:48 PM
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The fog lights on my big six have been replaced with 911 driving lights. They are the same body, but the lens has a different diffuser pattern.


I have them wired to be daytime running lights, and I would love to convert them to LED.
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post Jun 13 2023, 07:03 PM
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Seems there are 2 driving lenses used- one like Bob's that are similar to the fogs but with no change in the fluting top to bottom and one with less extreme fluting as the ones on Ebay linked above.

Clay- which lenses are your 911 lights?

I'm leaning towards getting lenses like Bob's thinking that the patterned would be spread out more and scattered to the sides a bit.

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