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Stripped cone screw at the firewall, Best approach? |
emerygt350 |
Jun 24 2023, 09:27 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
4.5 is too big and apparently 4 is too small. 5/32 too small. Wtf. Anyway, what do I do now? Drill it? Weld the alan to it?
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914Sixer |
Jun 24 2023, 09:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
How far is it in? IF the right screw was used, you can get needle nose vice grips on it.
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emerygt350 |
Jun 24 2023, 10:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I can get at it with a vice grip. I don't have a needle nose vice grip. Might need to get one.
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Porschef |
Jun 24 2023, 10:38 AM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
Try tapping in an easy out, it shouldn’t be that tight. If’n that fails you can drill it out, be sure to get the proper cone screws prior
Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jun 24 2023, 10:58 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,898 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
You can bang in a usa sized allen on a 3/8 socket after soaking it in pb blaster overnight
Then of course replace the set screw, plenty on the shelf 4.5 is too big and apparently 4 is too small. 5/32 too small. Wtf. Anyway, what do I do now? Drill it? Weld the alan to it? |
emerygt350 |
Jun 24 2023, 11:32 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I wish I had known before my last order that I was going to need one...
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rhodyguy |
Jun 24 2023, 11:51 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
For a SS trans equipped car, buy 2. I would buy 4, pay shipping 1 time and not worry about it.
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r_towle |
Jun 24 2023, 12:01 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Wait to order until you have your whole list..
Bang in another Allen or a Torx bit on a socket. Heat lightly with a propane torch (careful, fuel lines adjacent) It may have had locktight on the threads, heat will melt it. |
emerygt350 |
Jun 24 2023, 12:17 PM
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emerygt350 |
Jun 24 2023, 01:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
A little heat and a high quality extractor did the job easily. Thanks for the suggestions people.
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r_towle |
Jun 24 2023, 02:11 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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MartyYeoman |
Jun 24 2023, 06:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
One more suggestion: Try and get a set of the conical screws with the square head. They have a hole for safety wire (spelled reusable) and they don't rely on the socket as a installation feature. I tried searching for a part number but struck out. I got mine from Al when he ran PartsHeaven. I think they are early 911.
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TheCabinetmaker |
Jun 25 2023, 06:05 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Grab a torx bit just a little too big for the hole. Hammer it in till it seats. Unscrew. Insert new cone screw. Buy 5 extra for later!
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emerygt350 |
Jun 26 2023, 03:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
I tried the torx and the alan but it was not working. I decided it was about time I had a good set of extractors so I spent some money on that. I really think the heat was the key. If I had hit it with some heat first I probably wouldn't have stripped it. Somebody put some red locktite in there. I know, cause it was me. Fing DACO. And people on here warned me about exactly this problem but I was so frustrated with that cone screw loosening up. I have a big bottle of blue locktite now.
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emerygt350 |
Jun 26 2023, 03:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,147 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
And a couple of cone screws on their way from autoAtlanta.
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Superhawk996 |
Jun 26 2023, 04:29 PM
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bkrantz |
Jun 26 2023, 07:44 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,805 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Back to the original question, I sometimes got luck with sloppy or worn Allen head bolts after wrapping the wrench with a layer or two of aluminum foil.
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Morrie |
Jun 28 2023, 12:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 8-October 07 From: Cedar Park, Texas Member No.: 8,198 Region Association: Southwest Region |
One more suggestion: Try and get a set of the conical screws with the square head. They have a hole for safety wire (spelled reusable) and they don't rely on the socket as a installation feature. I tried searching for a part number but struck out. I got mine from Al when he ran PartsHeaven. I think they are early 911. Agree 100%. The square head ones with the safety wire hole are all I use. Funny thing is that I got all of mine from trading local 911 guys for allen head ones they wanted to "upgrade" to. I first learned of the safety wire when I bought my 68 912 years ago and fixed a sloppy shifter by tightening the very loose bolt. Make it snug and one nice wrap with safety wire around the coupler and you are set. Simplicity is elegance. |
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